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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dragoner" data-source="post: 8476651" data-attributes="member: 6943731">Sounds like an interesting book. You are right, we also faced the Polish-Lithuanians, and Swedes at the same exact time. Also a big factor of what happened with the Mongols was the Unity the Chinggis/ Ghengis fostered began to break down by the 17th century. Though the fight with the Horse Nomads lasted from the 9th century, to finally the 19th, Avars to Krim, that is a thousand years of warfare. China, and the Song, a dynasty of poets, and their problems with the Mongols, is fascinating. Originally, I guess they had hired them as mercenaries. There is Chinese writing in Monasteries in Russia from the middle ages, often Merchants, paying for prayers, they were coming across the Steppes.</blockquote>