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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8127436" data-attributes="member: 63508">I said it already. It takes 2d6 years to reach level 1 as a wizard training full time in 3rd edition.I am saying it take at least 20+ years to reach 5th levels and get 3rd level spells. I'm not going by just first level as in 3/5th of editions, wizards are weak and close to useless as at level 1. You cannot just use 5e's beneficial rules to disprove the base assumption of the game. Especially since nobles aren't all flying fireball slingers in 5e either.This is the whole point. PCs and NPCs are not the same. NPCs don't have the advantages of PCs.This is why in the base assumption of D&D, all the nobles are not 5th level spellcasters or above. NPC nobles are not special enough to bypass all the hurdles D&D puts on being a true spellcaster. They only have the money and power to get access to class trainers and the training to have slightly better stats than commoners.Sure if magic were easyand notresistive in D&D, it would make sense that nobles are all spellcasters like a shounen or shojo anime. But the baseline assumption is that nobles are not full spellcasters. So there must be a reason. And the rules, lore, and images across editions give it. Being a full spellcaster in D&D requires extreme training/study, special circumstances, or an additional allegiance to obtain.Only PCs are expected to bypass these barriers.</blockquote>