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Worlds of Design: Chaotic Neutral is the Worst
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<blockquote data-quote="Aaron L" data-source="post: 7815143" data-attributes="member: 926"><p>I define it thus:</p><p><strong>CHAOTIC EVIL:</strong> The chaotic evil creature holds that individual freedom and</p><p>choice is important, and that other individuals and their freedoms are</p><p>unimportant if they cannot be held by the individuals through their own strength</p><p>and merit. Thus, law and order tends to promote not individuals but groups,</p><p>and groups suppress individual volition and success.</p><p><em>- AD&D 1st Edition Dungeon Master's Guide, pg 24</em></p><p></p><p>Pure Social Darwinism combined with Anarchy and a hatred of "collectivism." D&D players tend to get the idea that Chaotic Evil means "Rawr I love murder!" because of the assocition with Demons, while I tend to think that Gygax likely intended it to match up pretty closely with certain real world philosophies that emphasize Egosim and denigrate Altruism. The terms<em> Good</em> and <em>Evil </em>in D&D (especially in Greyhawk as the default setting of 1st Edition) don't carry <em>exactly</em> the same connotations as they do in the real world, and the label <em>Evil</em> is borne proudly by those who embrace the philosophy that the strong deserve to rule over the weak rather than being a word that is always considered undesirable.</p><p></p><p>That's why I prefer Neutral Good, myself.<em> <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> </em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aaron L, post: 7815143, member: 926"] I define it thus: [B]CHAOTIC EVIL:[/B] The chaotic evil creature holds that individual freedom and choice is important, and that other individuals and their freedoms are unimportant if they cannot be held by the individuals through their own strength and merit. Thus, law and order tends to promote not individuals but groups, and groups suppress individual volition and success. [I]- AD&D 1st Edition Dungeon Master's Guide, pg 24[/I] Pure Social Darwinism combined with Anarchy and a hatred of "collectivism." D&D players tend to get the idea that Chaotic Evil means "Rawr I love murder!" because of the assocition with Demons, while I tend to think that Gygax likely intended it to match up pretty closely with certain real world philosophies that emphasize Egosim and denigrate Altruism. The terms[I] Good[/I] and [I]Evil [/I]in D&D (especially in Greyhawk as the default setting of 1st Edition) don't carry [I]exactly[/I] the same connotations as they do in the real world, and the label [I]Evil[/I] is borne proudly by those who embrace the philosophy that the strong deserve to rule over the weak rather than being a word that is always considered undesirable. That's why I prefer Neutral Good, myself.[I] ;) [/I] [/QUOTE]
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