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Worlds of Design: Chaotic Neutral is the Worst
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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7815241" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>My warped view of CN. Huh.</p><p></p><p>EVERY edition of D&D has described CN as untrustworthy:</p><p></p><p>1e: Above respect for life and good, or disregard for life and promotion of evil, the chaotic neutral places randomness and disorder.</p><p></p><p>Sounds untrustworthy to me.</p><p></p><p>2e: </p><p>Chaotic neutral characters believe that there is no order to anything,including their own actions. With this as a guiding principle, they tend to follow whatever whim strikes them at the moment. Good and evil are irrelevant when making a decision.Chaotic neutral characters are extremely difficult to deal with. Such characters have been known to cheerfully and for no apparent purpose gamble away everything they have onthe roll of a single die. They are almost totally unreliable. In fact, the only reliable thing about them is that they cannot be relied upon! </p><p></p><p>3e:</p><p>A chaotic neutral character follows his whims. He is an individualist first and last. He values his own liberty but doesn’t strive to protect others’ freedom. He avoids authority, resents restrictions, and challenges traditions. A chaotic neutral character does not intentionally disrupt organizations as part of a campaign of anarchy. To do so, he would have to be motivated either by good (and a desire to liberate others) or evil (and a desire to make those different from himself suffer). A chaotic neutral character may be unpredictable, but his behavior is not totally random. He is not as likely to jump off a bridge as to cross it. </p><p></p><p>So, not insane, like in 2e, but, still untrustworthy.</p><p></p><p>5e:</p><p></p><p><strong>Chaotic neutral</strong> (CN) creatures follow their whims, holding their personal freedom above all else. </p><p></p><p>So, yeah, untrustworthy. </p><p></p><p>If you are dependable and trustworthy, you are not following your whims, nor holding your personal freedom above all else. </p><p></p><p>I know folks get all huffy why it gets pointed out that CN is unreliable. I frankly have no idea why. It's not like this is new to the game. It's been there since pretty much day 1. Perhaps folks tend to self identify with particular alignments and thus don't like it when interpretations might be negative? Not sure. Don't really care honestly. I do know that folks are going to jump up and down and disagree with me vigorously. </p><p></p><p>So, I'll pop some corn and sit back and watch.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7815241, member: 22779"] My warped view of CN. Huh. EVERY edition of D&D has described CN as untrustworthy: 1e: Above respect for life and good, or disregard for life and promotion of evil, the chaotic neutral places randomness and disorder. Sounds untrustworthy to me. 2e: Chaotic neutral characters believe that there is no order to anything,including their own actions. With this as a guiding principle, they tend to follow whatever whim strikes them at the moment. Good and evil are irrelevant when making a decision.Chaotic neutral characters are extremely difficult to deal with. Such characters have been known to cheerfully and for no apparent purpose gamble away everything they have onthe roll of a single die. They are almost totally unreliable. In fact, the only reliable thing about them is that they cannot be relied upon! 3e: A chaotic neutral character follows his whims. He is an individualist first and last. He values his own liberty but doesn’t strive to protect others’ freedom. He avoids authority, resents restrictions, and challenges traditions. A chaotic neutral character does not intentionally disrupt organizations as part of a campaign of anarchy. To do so, he would have to be motivated either by good (and a desire to liberate others) or evil (and a desire to make those different from himself suffer). A chaotic neutral character may be unpredictable, but his behavior is not totally random. He is not as likely to jump off a bridge as to cross it. So, not insane, like in 2e, but, still untrustworthy. 5e: [B]Chaotic neutral[/B] (CN) creatures follow their whims, holding their personal freedom above all else. So, yeah, untrustworthy. If you are dependable and trustworthy, you are not following your whims, nor holding your personal freedom above all else. I know folks get all huffy why it gets pointed out that CN is unreliable. I frankly have no idea why. It's not like this is new to the game. It's been there since pretty much day 1. Perhaps folks tend to self identify with particular alignments and thus don't like it when interpretations might be negative? Not sure. Don't really care honestly. I do know that folks are going to jump up and down and disagree with me vigorously. So, I'll pop some corn and sit back and watch. [/QUOTE]
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