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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7817799" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>Well, half-orcs are half-human as well. I'm also just relating the rules as I understand them. There are exceptions to all rules (including this one) but some monsters are just born evil is a core assumption.</p><p></p><p>As far as killing baby orcs, yeah I generally avoid that for the simple reason that there is no good answer. Is it wrong to kill baby killer bees? I mean after all, they're innocent larvae, right? Then again if you don't kill them you're leaving them to starve to death. Try to adopt them out and (depending on the world of course) they're still evil orcs and will sooner or later act on those instincts.</p><p></p><p>Kind of like the story of the scorpion and the frog. A scorpion asks a frog to carry it across a river. The frog hesitates, afraid of being stung by the scorpion, but the scorpion argues that if it did that, they would both drown. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. The scorpion climbs onto the frog's back and the frog begins to swim, but midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung, to which the scorpion replies "I couldn't help it. It's in my nature."</p><p></p><p>It would be like having a test that guaranteed that a baby would 100% guaranteed be a sociopathic serial killer when they grow up. But is it really 100% or just 99.9%? If it's 99.9%, what about that .1% that may have been a functional sociopath? After all they make the best CEOs. But where do you draw the line? Are demons just misunderstood? Are there spectres that just want to give you a hug?</p><p></p><p>But even the FR novels struggle with this. In one of Salvatore's more recent books* where the companions are all brought back there's a scene where Cattie-Brie tells Drizzt (no apostrophe, that's in the last name only) that orcs are just plain evil because her god told her so. Apparently in FR, drow break the mold or something. Since elves are more "malleable" than other races I guess that makes sense. </p><p></p><p>I think this is a campaign preference. I don't allow monstrous races in my campaigns because, to be honest, I don't want to deal with philosophy 101 in my game. It's not what I play the game for.</p><p></p><p><em>*I've only read some of them, I enjoyed the original trilogy and pick up a book here and there.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7817799, member: 6801845"] Well, half-orcs are half-human as well. I'm also just relating the rules as I understand them. There are exceptions to all rules (including this one) but some monsters are just born evil is a core assumption. As far as killing baby orcs, yeah I generally avoid that for the simple reason that there is no good answer. Is it wrong to kill baby killer bees? I mean after all, they're innocent larvae, right? Then again if you don't kill them you're leaving them to starve to death. Try to adopt them out and (depending on the world of course) they're still evil orcs and will sooner or later act on those instincts. Kind of like the story of the scorpion and the frog. A scorpion asks a frog to carry it across a river. The frog hesitates, afraid of being stung by the scorpion, but the scorpion argues that if it did that, they would both drown. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. The scorpion climbs onto the frog's back and the frog begins to swim, but midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung, to which the scorpion replies "I couldn't help it. It's in my nature." It would be like having a test that guaranteed that a baby would 100% guaranteed be a sociopathic serial killer when they grow up. But is it really 100% or just 99.9%? If it's 99.9%, what about that .1% that may have been a functional sociopath? After all they make the best CEOs. But where do you draw the line? Are demons just misunderstood? Are there spectres that just want to give you a hug? But even the FR novels struggle with this. In one of Salvatore's more recent books* where the companions are all brought back there's a scene where Cattie-Brie tells Drizzt (no apostrophe, that's in the last name only) that orcs are just plain evil because her god told her so. Apparently in FR, drow break the mold or something. Since elves are more "malleable" than other races I guess that makes sense. I think this is a campaign preference. I don't allow monstrous races in my campaigns because, to be honest, I don't want to deal with philosophy 101 in my game. It's not what I play the game for. [I]*I've only read some of them, I enjoyed the original trilogy and pick up a book here and there.[/I] [/QUOTE]
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