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<blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 9434915"><p>We are just going to not agree here. They are simply a list of types of colonization. So they aren't naturally going to present narratives or points of view of the colonized. Just like if I list eight types of war, I am not going focused on something like the victims of war and their point of view (I may get into that but this is obviously a very bullet-pointed list of types). </p><p></p><p>On the potato famine in particular that seems to be to be more about the focus, which is emigration if the Irish to the US and elsewhere. He is talking about people migrating to avoid disasters. So he is giving the Irish pov. He just isn’t getting into the deeper history of English colonization of Ireland. I think if he has a deep section on the famine you would have a pint but he just mentions it in passing as an example of emigration. However I also can imagine he would want to be very careful and take a lot more time getting into that topic if he were to wade into it (because if you are going to talk about that, you want to get all your facts straight and make sure you understand the issues involved). If it is simply mentioned in passing that is a different story. Incidentally this isn't something I take lightly. I am a mix of ethnicities and my family on one side came over from Ireland during the potato famine. In my opinion the last thing this thread needs is a debate about the potato famine and its causes (and I am sure if he had got into it, that would not have been an unlikely outcome). </p><p></p><p>If I were going to critique this section it would be that the Irish were not colonizing when they left Ireland. In the case of the US they immigrated and became part of American society. That isn't a colony. But I understand he was simply using it as an example of people moving due to a disaster and this could be used in a game as a motivation for having a people build a colony.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 85555, post: 9434915"] We are just going to not agree here. They are simply a list of types of colonization. So they aren't naturally going to present narratives or points of view of the colonized. Just like if I list eight types of war, I am not going focused on something like the victims of war and their point of view (I may get into that but this is obviously a very bullet-pointed list of types). On the potato famine in particular that seems to be to be more about the focus, which is emigration if the Irish to the US and elsewhere. He is talking about people migrating to avoid disasters. So he is giving the Irish pov. He just isn’t getting into the deeper history of English colonization of Ireland. I think if he has a deep section on the famine you would have a pint but he just mentions it in passing as an example of emigration. However I also can imagine he would want to be very careful and take a lot more time getting into that topic if he were to wade into it (because if you are going to talk about that, you want to get all your facts straight and make sure you understand the issues involved). If it is simply mentioned in passing that is a different story. Incidentally this isn't something I take lightly. I am a mix of ethnicities and my family on one side came over from Ireland during the potato famine. In my opinion the last thing this thread needs is a debate about the potato famine and its causes (and I am sure if he had got into it, that would not have been an unlikely outcome). If I were going to critique this section it would be that the Irish were not colonizing when they left Ireland. In the case of the US they immigrated and became part of American society. That isn't a colony. But I understand he was simply using it as an example of people moving due to a disaster and this could be used in a game as a motivation for having a people build a colony. [/QUOTE]
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