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<blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 8092438" data-attributes="member: 6701124"><p>Yes, they are describing a small part of the religion when they list spells (spells that are shared by either every Cleric or every Cleric of a deity who vaguely covers that sphere), symbols (well, the most common one or two holy symbols), and history (maybe some history, most commonly just being in a big list of other deities).</p><p></p><p>It feels like it leaves out quite a bit though (for at least most of them)... What colors are the symbols usually? The vestments? What do the colors and vestments symbolize? What are the major holy days? Why are they celebrated? How are they celebrated? How is marriage viewed by the religion? How are different races, sexes, and LGBTQ status viewed by the religion? What are its holy texts? Are the text viewed as literal or figurative? Is it actually true (either literally or figuratively)? Are there any sects within the religion? What training does a priest need? Are there sacraments or duties of the worshipers? How vital are they for the believers according to the rules and how strict are those rules enforced? Which sacraments require a priest to give them? Are all priests spell casters? How does it view other gods in the same pantheon? Are there regular worship services? When are they held? Are they mandatory? Does one need to have passed certain mysteries to fully participate? Is there a birth requirement to belong by default? What is the conversion process? What are viewed as sins? How do excommunication, atonement, and forgiveness work? How does it view other pantheons? Does it have saints and prophets? If so, what does saint or prophet mean in terms of that religion? Who leads it? How does the god communicate with the leadership? With the rest of the clergy? With the laity? What are its beliefs on the spirit or soul and the afterlife? Are its beliefs on that verifiable or unverifiable?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How many of those questions could the player of the cleric in your game answer? And if he can answer many, how many of them were in the published sources about the religion?</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>If the level and type of detail given couldn't tell a Mormon from a Seventh Day Adventist from Lutheran from a Catholic from a Baptist from a ... (or similar from denominations and sects in other real world religions), it feels awfully superficial and I don't think I'd call it a discussion. Almost more like a team than a faith.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cadence, post: 8092438, member: 6701124"] Yes, they are describing a small part of the religion when they list spells (spells that are shared by either every Cleric or every Cleric of a deity who vaguely covers that sphere), symbols (well, the most common one or two holy symbols), and history (maybe some history, most commonly just being in a big list of other deities). It feels like it leaves out quite a bit though (for at least most of them)... What colors are the symbols usually? The vestments? What do the colors and vestments symbolize? What are the major holy days? Why are they celebrated? How are they celebrated? How is marriage viewed by the religion? How are different races, sexes, and LGBTQ status viewed by the religion? What are its holy texts? Are the text viewed as literal or figurative? Is it actually true (either literally or figuratively)? Are there any sects within the religion? What training does a priest need? Are there sacraments or duties of the worshipers? How vital are they for the believers according to the rules and how strict are those rules enforced? Which sacraments require a priest to give them? Are all priests spell casters? How does it view other gods in the same pantheon? Are there regular worship services? When are they held? Are they mandatory? Does one need to have passed certain mysteries to fully participate? Is there a birth requirement to belong by default? What is the conversion process? What are viewed as sins? How do excommunication, atonement, and forgiveness work? How does it view other pantheons? Does it have saints and prophets? If so, what does saint or prophet mean in terms of that religion? Who leads it? How does the god communicate with the leadership? With the rest of the clergy? With the laity? What are its beliefs on the spirit or soul and the afterlife? Are its beliefs on that verifiable or unverifiable? How many of those questions could the player of the cleric in your game answer? And if he can answer many, how many of them were in the published sources about the religion? --- If the level and type of detail given couldn't tell a Mormon from a Seventh Day Adventist from Lutheran from a Catholic from a Baptist from a ... (or similar from denominations and sects in other real world religions), it feels awfully superficial and I don't think I'd call it a discussion. Almost more like a team than a faith. [/QUOTE]
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