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<blockquote data-quote="MostlyHarmless42" data-source="post: 8096196" data-attributes="member: 6845520"><p>Except the difference is that I am not a) insulting several well known and well loved authors of various different forms of media, of whom I am more than willing to provide a list of names that have just been mentioned in this thread alone.</p><p></p><p>Hell if you want what is perhaps an unpopular opinion among these boards, by the absurd logic of "new" ideas being better than old, Stephanie Meyer has done more to contribute to modern Vampire folklore than most other authors in the last 50 years, creators of Curse of Strahd included. After all our boy from Ravenloft is just a Dracula clone, right?</p><p></p><p>b) I am not trying to prove the case that the mere presence of elves and dwarves means you've ripped off Tolkien. I reject that notion as an opinion and <em>not</em> a fact. That is an argument made by yourself and the author of this terribly researched click-bait article. Therefore the burden of proof lies with you. I do, however, expect clear and concise definitions of what constitutes what an "elf" and "dwarf" is, and I want specific documented sources we can present to debate.</p><p></p><p>And c) I am more than prepared to elaborate more if you wish, though it shall be a lengthy discussion involving quite a number of touchy subjects that all border on risking this thread getting locked further. Suffice it to say the inter-connectivity of corporate influence and capitalism on all forms of entertainment is just as much at fault (if not more so) for stories being so bland and repetitive as it is this amusing insistence that Tokien has "ruined" fantasy (again, see point b about said click-bait article, which I still assume is profit motivated, if not on the part of the author than on the part of the editor who according to the author's previous post changed the title of this thread without his consent). People have been saying the exact sort of thing with Disney and fairy tales since the company's inception, and they did so with the Brother's Grimm before that. It all boils down to human greed and the desire to gain as much money for as little work possible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MostlyHarmless42, post: 8096196, member: 6845520"] Except the difference is that I am not a) insulting several well known and well loved authors of various different forms of media, of whom I am more than willing to provide a list of names that have just been mentioned in this thread alone. Hell if you want what is perhaps an unpopular opinion among these boards, by the absurd logic of "new" ideas being better than old, Stephanie Meyer has done more to contribute to modern Vampire folklore than most other authors in the last 50 years, creators of Curse of Strahd included. After all our boy from Ravenloft is just a Dracula clone, right? b) I am not trying to prove the case that the mere presence of elves and dwarves means you've ripped off Tolkien. I reject that notion as an opinion and [I]not[/I] a fact. That is an argument made by yourself and the author of this terribly researched click-bait article. Therefore the burden of proof lies with you. I do, however, expect clear and concise definitions of what constitutes what an "elf" and "dwarf" is, and I want specific documented sources we can present to debate. And c) I am more than prepared to elaborate more if you wish, though it shall be a lengthy discussion involving quite a number of touchy subjects that all border on risking this thread getting locked further. Suffice it to say the inter-connectivity of corporate influence and capitalism on all forms of entertainment is just as much at fault (if not more so) for stories being so bland and repetitive as it is this amusing insistence that Tokien has "ruined" fantasy (again, see point b about said click-bait article, which I still assume is profit motivated, if not on the part of the author than on the part of the editor who according to the author's previous post changed the title of this thread without his consent). People have been saying the exact sort of thing with Disney and fairy tales since the company's inception, and they did so with the Brother's Grimm before that. It all boils down to human greed and the desire to gain as much money for as little work possible. [/QUOTE]
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