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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7805560" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>Again, you seem to be doing what lots of people do in this conversation: hold a double standard when comparing guns vs melee. You compare being stabbed in the eye, but are comparing high velocity rounds that will explode in the brain (firstly, rounds don't explode. Closest thing is a frangible round, but that doesn't explode either, but breaks apart. ) If you're going to use high velocity rounds, then the equivalent melee is being stabbed in the eye with a two handed sword.</p><p></p><p>Regardless if it's a bullet, dagger, or sword, getting hit in the eye isn't fatal (we have a sitting congressman who lost an eye to an IED). If any of those enter your brain, you're chances of living are way down. One isn't worse than the other.</p><p></p><p>[USER=22779]@Hussar[/USER] , it's a bit disingenuous to say guns are more lethal because you get hit in the chest and your heart. firstly, because you need a pretty powerful round to do that, so again, you'd have to compare to a larger weapon like a battle axe or heavy sword (which to anyone who has ever watched Forged in Fire, are more than capable of penetrating the chest). Secondly, you're picking a highly selective area. By that logic, I can say swords are more deadly than guns, because many people have survived a direct shot in the throat by a gun (my great uncle was shot with by a 30-06 in the throat in a hunting accident and survived), but if you get a direct hit in the throat by a battle axe, your chances are survival are much less because if the bullet encounters little resistance, it does a pass through. An axe or sword blade does not.</p><p></p><p>Point being, is that there is no significant difference between a melee strike and bullet strike in general when comparing all weapons and all hit locations. Therefore, like [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER] and I have been saying, there is no real compelling reason to have much higher damage ratings for guns than swords. Every argument so far to do that seems to hold on to that double standard above</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7805560, member: 15700"] Again, you seem to be doing what lots of people do in this conversation: hold a double standard when comparing guns vs melee. You compare being stabbed in the eye, but are comparing high velocity rounds that will explode in the brain (firstly, rounds don't explode. Closest thing is a frangible round, but that doesn't explode either, but breaks apart. ) If you're going to use high velocity rounds, then the equivalent melee is being stabbed in the eye with a two handed sword. Regardless if it's a bullet, dagger, or sword, getting hit in the eye isn't fatal (we have a sitting congressman who lost an eye to an IED). If any of those enter your brain, you're chances of living are way down. One isn't worse than the other. [USER=22779]@Hussar[/USER] , it's a bit disingenuous to say guns are more lethal because you get hit in the chest and your heart. firstly, because you need a pretty powerful round to do that, so again, you'd have to compare to a larger weapon like a battle axe or heavy sword (which to anyone who has ever watched Forged in Fire, are more than capable of penetrating the chest). Secondly, you're picking a highly selective area. By that logic, I can say swords are more deadly than guns, because many people have survived a direct shot in the throat by a gun (my great uncle was shot with by a 30-06 in the throat in a hunting accident and survived), but if you get a direct hit in the throat by a battle axe, your chances are survival are much less because if the bullet encounters little resistance, it does a pass through. An axe or sword blade does not. Point being, is that there is no significant difference between a melee strike and bullet strike in general when comparing all weapons and all hit locations. Therefore, like [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER] and I have been saying, there is no real compelling reason to have much higher damage ratings for guns than swords. Every argument so far to do that seems to hold on to that double standard above [/QUOTE]
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