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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CF07" data-source="post: 9716537" data-attributes="member: 7052262">Yes indeed. The Hobbit is way more S&S than LotR. I don't think it's a coincidence that Gygax in Appendix N indicated that he was more influenced by the former than the latter .Absolutely. Things like the Great Plague, the Fall of the Dwarven Kingdom followed by another one when Smaug took over the Lonely Mountain, and the overall decline of both Gondor and destruction of Arnor are evident. Even between The Hobbit and LotR, Eriador, with the exception of The Shire, get worse and worse. Tharbad is ruins and the bridge is out. Contact between Gondor and the North is essentially nonexistent. Personally I think Tolkien lays it on a bit thick in those respects, but, still, that's a big part of the story. Of course, much of this is because the Land lacks a True King.</blockquote>