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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 7972408" data-attributes="member: 6855114">Just seeing the different examples given and how others process these examples quite differently from what I would have and even other poster have, reassure me that I am in the right direction in playing a black and white view of the alignments. Playing in the extremes makes things a lot easier.As for the Lawful Stupid... Nothing can be farther from the truth. Again check the paladin's threads where I clearly define what a paladin would do in many situations. Lawful and Good combined together do not make someone suddenly stupid. They will act accordingly to threats and behaviors. Sometimes, the most humane way to administer justice is a quick death.As for the example of the faith of Heironeous and Hextor working together in the Great Kingdom as an example of shades of grey.... Nothing can be further from the truth. Both churches were heavily competing against one another. The Twin gods were not venerated equaly. It wasn't until the era of the Rax house and the Nealax line (Ivid line) that the church of Hextor could go public as the lines were quite tyranical. It was one of the reason that the Kingdoms of Furyondy and Veluna (256 CY) followed by the County of Urnst, The Shield Lands, Perreland and the Pale (not necessarily in this order) seceded. And finaly Nyrond broke away from the Great Kingdom to become a kindom itself in 356 . To which the Great Kingdom could do nothing because the Ivid's powers were stretch to their limits just to keep what was left of the Great Kingdom. The public following of Hextor could be seen as one of the main reasons why these Kingdoms seceded from the Great Kingdom. If this is an example of light working with darkness, it is a poor one indeed. Greyhawk shows through its adventures and stories (at least in the adventure boxsets, soft covers and hard covers) that only evil benefits from the shades of grey... It clearly shows the tempting pitfall that shades of grey are. This is why Belvor IV declare an eternal crusade against the lands of Iuz (see the Marklands). D&D is about heroic fantasy. Sure the rules are flexible enough to accomodate almost any playstyles (even playing evil is feasible) but from the get go, goodness and heroism is what is expected from this game. Again, you can (and should play) any way you want. But if it is not heroic fantasy then it is a personal choice and an adaptation that you are making.</blockquote>

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