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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 7973047" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>Got a source for that?</p><p></p><p>Because unless you can find such an authority, I'll continue to presume that when the game uses terms like 'good' or 'evil' or 'morality' that those words have the context I am familiar with and am expected to understand them in. You know; a <em>contemporary </em>context.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>When you watched LoTR, did Gandalf, Aragorn, Gimli or Legolas strike you as adhering to a different morality to our contemporary one?</p><p></p><p>Would you describe all the Companions as Good aligned (even Boromir; notwithstanding his corruption by the Ring, he still managed to die a hero)?</p><p></p><p>Did you see any of the Companions engaged in a war of Genocide against Orcs or any other dark folk, or did you only ever see them fight<em> when they had to, and only in self defence?</em></p><p></p><p>Would you describe Sauroman, Sauron, the Nazgul and the Uruk Hai as evil? If so, why would you describe them as such? What actions (i.e. wars of aggression, killing, harming and opressing others) did you see to come to your conclusion they were evil?</p><p></p><p>How about when you watched Game of Thrones? Do you have any doubts about Eddard, Rob, Samwell and Jons Good alignment, or Roose, Ramsay, Clegaines, Jofferey etc's evil alignments?</p><p></p><p>You're asserting evil stuff wasnt evil simply due to its occuring in a fantasy setting. Murder, genocide, rape, harming others etc is evil whether it happens in Mordor, Westeross, Faerun or down your local grocery shop!</p><p></p><p>If I were to accept your proposition that 'mass slaughter and slavery were accepted back then' then slavery, torture, rapine, murder and so forth are morally good simply because they're common place. They're not acceptable then, and they arent acceptable now - its just there was a lot more evil around (and a lot less enlightenment) when they were!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 7973047, member: 6788736"] Got a source for that? Because unless you can find such an authority, I'll continue to presume that when the game uses terms like 'good' or 'evil' or 'morality' that those words have the context I am familiar with and am expected to understand them in. You know; a [I]contemporary [/I]context. When you watched LoTR, did Gandalf, Aragorn, Gimli or Legolas strike you as adhering to a different morality to our contemporary one? Would you describe all the Companions as Good aligned (even Boromir; notwithstanding his corruption by the Ring, he still managed to die a hero)? Did you see any of the Companions engaged in a war of Genocide against Orcs or any other dark folk, or did you only ever see them fight[I] when they had to, and only in self defence?[/I] Would you describe Sauroman, Sauron, the Nazgul and the Uruk Hai as evil? If so, why would you describe them as such? What actions (i.e. wars of aggression, killing, harming and opressing others) did you see to come to your conclusion they were evil? How about when you watched Game of Thrones? Do you have any doubts about Eddard, Rob, Samwell and Jons Good alignment, or Roose, Ramsay, Clegaines, Jofferey etc's evil alignments? You're asserting evil stuff wasnt evil simply due to its occuring in a fantasy setting. Murder, genocide, rape, harming others etc is evil whether it happens in Mordor, Westeross, Faerun or down your local grocery shop! If I were to accept your proposition that 'mass slaughter and slavery were accepted back then' then slavery, torture, rapine, murder and so forth are morally good simply because they're common place. They're not acceptable then, and they arent acceptable now - its just there was a lot more evil around (and a lot less enlightenment) when they were! [/QUOTE]
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