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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7975370" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>My, rather reductionist, take on alignment:</p><p></p><p>Lawful: You follow an external code (laws, ethos, religion, fraternal order, knightly order, etc.)</p><p>Chaotic: You reject external codes. </p><p></p><p>Good: You sacrifice yourself to help others.</p><p>Evil: You sacrifice others to help yourself.</p><p></p><p>This is about as four colors as I really want alignment in my D&D to be. </p><p></p><p>In the above, though, Hobbits would probably be anywhere between lawful good and neutral. Lawful good if you focus on their social structures and the ways they help each other (which is a bit lacking in the source material). Neutral in that their social order doesn't seem to get much veneration and they don't go out of their way to help anyone but their own. Individually, Frodo seems neutral good -- he clearly sacrifices himself for others, but doesn't appear to adhere to or reject an external code. Sam is similar. Aragon is lawful good -- he adheres to an external code and sacrifices himself. Boromir would be lawful neutral -- his adherence to external codes is strong and he's not terribly concern with helping or harming others in following it. Gollum is chaotic evil -- he rejects any outside codes and willing sacrifices others for his own good. Orcs seem lawful evil -- they follow an external code, but will harm others to help themselves. Goblins maybe neutral evil to chaotic evil? Not a lot of data there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 7975370, member: 16814"] My, rather reductionist, take on alignment: Lawful: You follow an external code (laws, ethos, religion, fraternal order, knightly order, etc.) Chaotic: You reject external codes. Good: You sacrifice yourself to help others. Evil: You sacrifice others to help yourself. This is about as four colors as I really want alignment in my D&D to be. In the above, though, Hobbits would probably be anywhere between lawful good and neutral. Lawful good if you focus on their social structures and the ways they help each other (which is a bit lacking in the source material). Neutral in that their social order doesn't seem to get much veneration and they don't go out of their way to help anyone but their own. Individually, Frodo seems neutral good -- he clearly sacrifices himself for others, but doesn't appear to adhere to or reject an external code. Sam is similar. Aragon is lawful good -- he adheres to an external code and sacrifices himself. Boromir would be lawful neutral -- his adherence to external codes is strong and he's not terribly concern with helping or harming others in following it. Gollum is chaotic evil -- he rejects any outside codes and willing sacrifices others for his own good. Orcs seem lawful evil -- they follow an external code, but will harm others to help themselves. Goblins maybe neutral evil to chaotic evil? Not a lot of data there. [/QUOTE]
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