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<blockquote data-quote="Stacie GmrGrl" data-source="post: 8249567" data-attributes="member: 86279">It's interesting you mention sci-fi subgenres because in some of those we can see default settings.Cyberpunk and Post-Apocalyptic both have strong defaults. If we think Supers, the default could (maybe) very well be the Marvel Universe now after a decade of the MCU). If we say Space Opera, then I think most of us see Star Wars. Perhaps the thing about Science Fiction is that there can't be a generic Sci-Fi because there never was one in the first place. It evolved through its subgenres over the last hundred years. If the genre had its moments to evolve a true Tolkien equivalent it would have been Frank Herbert's Dune, Lucas' Star Wars or Roddenberry's Star Trek. Dune was the first hugely popular sci-fi novel that broke through the barriers that were holding sci-fi back at the time. I don't think either Star Trek/Wars would have done as well without Dune's popularity. But for a lot of writers and game designers today, Star Wars is one of THE biggest influences on us. We wouldn't have Mass Effect or The Expanse or Babylon 5 or nearly the hundreds of imitators writing their own space opera novels over the last 4 decades. I say we had 3 Tolkien equivalents in Sci-Fi... And the 3 are just different enough that each became it's own thing. You can definitely see Dune's influence more in Star Wars than Star Trek though. If we were to go back a hundred years though, the grandfather of sci-fi as we see it today could be Barsoom and the John Carter of Mars series.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stacie GmrGrl, post: 8249567, member: 86279"] It's interesting you mention sci-fi subgenres because in some of those we can see default settings. Cyberpunk and Post-Apocalyptic both have strong defaults. If we think Supers, the default could (maybe) very well be the Marvel Universe now after a decade of the MCU). If we say Space Opera, then I think most of us see Star Wars. Perhaps the thing about Science Fiction is that there can't be a generic Sci-Fi because there never was one in the first place. It evolved through its subgenres over the last hundred years. If the genre had its moments to evolve a true Tolkien equivalent it would have been Frank Herbert's Dune, Lucas' Star Wars or Roddenberry's Star Trek. Dune was the first hugely popular sci-fi novel that broke through the barriers that were holding sci-fi back at the time. I don't think either Star Trek/Wars would have done as well without Dune's popularity. But for a lot of writers and game designers today, Star Wars is one of THE biggest influences on us. We wouldn't have Mass Effect or The Expanse or Babylon 5 or nearly the hundreds of imitators writing their own space opera novels over the last 4 decades. I say we had 3 Tolkien equivalents in Sci-Fi... And the 3 are just different enough that each became it's own thing. You can definitely see Dune's influence more in Star Wars than Star Trek though. If we were to go back a hundred years though, the grandfather of sci-fi as we see it today could be Barsoom and the John Carter of Mars series. [/QUOTE]

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