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<blockquote data-quote="TrippyHippy" data-source="post: 8250786" data-attributes="member: 27252">I didn’t say Traveller invented the model. However, it was the first RPG to establish what the default science fiction model was in the hobby.To be blunt, this is all just wooly thinking waffle.It’s not my model. It is the model of science fiction utilized through all the sources mentioned - Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who, Serenity, etc are all different but all carry the same underlying tropes of travelling around diverse settings in a spacecraft of one sort or another. If you don’t care about tropes in genres, then it makes the entire conversation meaningless.As far as I am aware, nobody has tried to adapt Algernon, Quest for Fire or 1984 to science fiction gaming, but again, if we are going to pull names out of a hat, then Harry Potter, Conan, Alice in Wonderland, the Wizard of Oz, Gilgamesh, Wuxia, Howl’s Moving Castle and Amber are all far removed from Tolkien’s default fantasy model too. Tolkien’s work isn’t a single unifying work of fantasy that all others follow - heck, even D&amp;D doesn’t follow it that much. You seem happy to rally all of fantasy to one single work, yet cannot rationalize the same for a narrower genre - Star Trek, Star Wars and Doctor Who are all as recognizably iconic as Tolkien is.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TrippyHippy, post: 8250786, member: 27252"] I didn’t say Traveller invented the model. However, it was the first RPG to establish what the default science fiction model was in the hobby. To be blunt, this is all just wooly thinking waffle. It’s not [I]my[/I] model. It is the model of science fiction utilized through all the sources mentioned - Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who, Serenity, etc are all different but all carry the same underlying tropes of travelling around diverse settings in a spacecraft of one sort or another. If you don’t care about tropes in genres, then it makes the entire conversation meaningless. As far as I am aware, nobody has tried to adapt Algernon, Quest for Fire or 1984 to science fiction gaming, but again, if we are going to pull names out of a hat, then Harry Potter, Conan, Alice in Wonderland, the Wizard of Oz, Gilgamesh, Wuxia, Howl’s Moving Castle and Amber are all far removed from Tolkien’s default fantasy model too. Tolkien’s work isn’t a single unifying work of fantasy that all others follow - heck, even D&D doesn’t follow it that much. You seem happy to rally all of fantasy to one single work, yet cannot rationalize the same for a narrower genre - Star Trek, Star Wars and Doctor Who are all as recognizably iconic as Tolkien is. [/QUOTE]

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