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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TrippyHippy" data-source="post: 8251277" data-attributes="member: 27252">Again, I feel we keep on having the same arguments again and again, because people are not reading.As far as roleplaying games are concerned, the default for science fiction gaming is the model presented by Traveller back in 1977 in the same way the default for fantasy gaming was D&D.Yes, science fiction can be a diverse genre, but actually the spacefaring model still can incorporate a lot of the ideas presented in your list above by simply having different technological levels and a diverse range of planets or encounters. If you want time travel or giant robots fighting aliens then you can incorporate the ideas through technology levels. If you want Mad Max or Waterworld then visit planets where this is the situation. The rules as written include all this as possibilities.Fantasy is not just Tolkien based either. D&D barely resembles Tolkien really, because it incorporates lots of different types of fantasy media too. You can also do a long list of titles that doesn’t involve the sort of things presented in D&D:Harry Potter is fantasyThe Amber Chronicles is fantasyThe Dresden Files is fantasyHis Dark Materials is fantasyGame of Thrones is fantasyAlice in Wonderland is fantasyIt’s a Wonderful Life is fantasyLe Morte D’Arthur is fantasyThe Princess Bride is fantasyChronicles of Narnia is fantasyGilgamesh is fantasySpirited Away is fantasyMonkey (The Journey to the West) is fantasyConan the Barbarian is fantasyKing Kong is fantasyThe Wizard of Oz is fantasyHighlander is fantasyThe Divine Comedy is fantasyThe Sandman is fantasyTime Bandits is fantasyFellini’s 8 1/2 is fantasyThe poems of William Blake is fantasyMetamorphosis by Kafka is fantasyBeing John Malkovich is fantasyNone of these are exactly replicated by D&D, but as far as gaming goes, the default model for fantasy is presented by D&D. The same is true for Traveller as the default model for science fiction, and latterly as a market leader, by the Star Wars RPG which often bares little resemblance in play to many of the movies, in fact, because the gaming default model is different to the specific saga presented in the movies.</blockquote>

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