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<blockquote data-quote="TrippyHippy" data-source="post: 8253441" data-attributes="member: 27252">Which is always the point of concern from science fiction fans. However, as far as the RPG general public are concerned, the tropes of science fiction gaming are clear. It is the reason why games like Starfinder can find a market external to that of Pathfinder. Whether people like it or not, in the minds of the general gaming public, Starfinder is science fiction. So is Star Wars.Now, as a Traveller fan, I would say that I prefer my science fiction to be more grounded in reality and scientific plausibility, but as far as default science fiction gaming is concerned, the fans follow the tropes to identify the genre they seek. Those tropes are what we have outlined here several times before - space travel, high tech, aliens, robots, psionics, etc.But the same is true of fantasy roleplaying too. Tolkien is supposedly the default for fantasy, as per the opening premise - but it isn’t. D&amp;D doesn’t really resemble Tolkien’s works outside of some observable tropes, while the genre of fantasy as a whole includes a far wider range of media sources too. If Groundhog Day and The Wizard of Oz are considered to be fantasy movies - and they are - then it suggests that the default for fantasy in gaming also struggles to address the nebulous nature of its own genre.It is a double standard, therefore, for gamers to consider that fantasy has a ‘default’ but science fiction does not.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TrippyHippy, post: 8253441, member: 27252"] Which is always the point of concern from science fiction fans. However, as [I]far as the RPG general public are concerned[/I], [I]the tropes of science fiction gaming are clear.[/I] It is the reason why games like Starfinder can find a market external to that of Pathfinder. Whether people like it or not, [I]in the minds of the general gaming public[/I], Starfinder is science fiction. So is Star Wars. Now, as a Traveller fan, I would say that I prefer my science fiction to be more grounded in reality and scientific plausibility, but as far as [I]default science fiction gaming[/I] is concerned, the fans follow the tropes to identify the genre they seek. Those tropes are what we have outlined here several times before - space travel, high tech, aliens, robots, psionics, etc. But the same is true of fantasy roleplaying too. Tolkien is supposedly the default for fantasy, as per the opening premise - but it isn’t. D&D doesn’t really resemble Tolkien’s works outside of some observable tropes, while the genre of fantasy as a whole includes a far wider range of media sources too. If Groundhog Day and The Wizard of Oz are considered to be fantasy movies - and they are - then it suggests that the default for fantasy in gaming also struggles to address the nebulous nature of its own genre. It is a double standard, therefore, for gamers to consider that fantasy has a ‘default’ but science fiction does not. [/QUOTE]

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