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<blockquote data-quote="Distracted DM" data-source="post: 9657758" data-attributes="member: 6894926"><p>Ha I think my problem in communication is that I consider 3e and afterwards "modern" DnD- it's post-TSR DnD, modern ability score definitions n rules (10=0, 12=+1, etc).</p><p></p><p>But I think you might underestimate the magic items provided in 5e adventures.</p><p>As far as 5e adventures go, let's look at Curse of Strahd, an adventure that folk often think is low in magic. We see, however, that the number of magical items in it are not few:</p><p>[SPOILER]</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Possible magic items in Vistanti tents and wagons</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Icon of Ravenloft</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mace of Terror</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Manual of Bodily Health</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Instrument of the bards (Doss Lute)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Daern's instant fortress</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+2 shield</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Alchemy jug</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Helm of Brilliance</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+1 rod of the pact keeper</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Potions of greater healing</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Potions of healing</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Potions of poison</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Potion of heroism</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+1 intelligent shortsword</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Saint Markovia's thighbone</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Deck of Illusions</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Staff of power</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Luck Blade</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spell scrolls (magic circle, cone of cold, fireball, lightning bolt, protection from fiends, protection from undead, heroe's feast, mass cure wounds, revivify, wall of fire, bless, protection from poison, spiritual weapon)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+2 plate armor</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Elixirs of health</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bag of Tricks</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ring of warmth</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Potions of invulnerability</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+2 greatsword</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Potion of superior healing</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Statuette of Saint Markovia</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Oil of sharpness</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+1 sling bullets</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Pipes of haunting</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Stone of good luck</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wand of Secrets</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Robe of useful items</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Control amulet for a shield guardian</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Staff of frost</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Tome of Understanding</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Magical ewer</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Magic battle axe</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Blood spear</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Silvered shortsword</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Silver rapier</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cloak of protection</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Various spellbooks with wizard spells; a library with literally every wizard spell in the game</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Gulthias staff</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Holy Symbol of Ravenkind</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sunsword</li> </ul><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>That's not a bad list.</p><p>What about Tomb of Annihilation? Forgive the formatting, these lists are other DM's good n helpful work:</p><p>[SPOILER]</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Volo's Guide to Monsters (for sale)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+1 ammunition (for sale)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+1 shield, wooden (for sale)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+1 dagger (for sale)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+1 yklwa (for sale)</li> </ul><p>Ring of resistance [fire]</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Potion, common</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Potion, uncommon</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spell scroll, 1st level</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spell scroll, 2nd level</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spellbook (reward)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sending stone (only one of the pair, linked to Ras Nsi)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Alchemy Jug (zone 6E)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Circlet of blasting</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Nolzur's marvelous pigments (reward)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ring of jumping (reward)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spell scroll of commune with nature (zone 4)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mask of the beast (zone 4)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Potion of healing x4 (zone 10G)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spell scroll of lesser restoration x2 (zone 10G)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spell scroll of purify food and drink x2 (zone 10G)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+1 arrow x5 (zone 10G)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bowl of commanding water elementals (zone 10G)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sending stones (zone 10I, only one of the pair, linked to Captain Zaroum Al-Saryak)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spell scroll of arcane gate x2 (zone 4)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Teleportation circle (zone 6)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Moradin's Gauntlet (zone 6)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spell scroll of knock</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spell scroll of Leomund's Tiny Hut</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Potion of water breathing</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sending stones (only one of the pair, linked to Liara Portyr)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cape of the mounteback</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ring of animal influence</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Potion of poison x4 (zone 3B)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spell scroll of comprehend languages</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Potion of greater healing</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Folding boat (zone 2)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spell scroll of protection from evil and good [undead] (zone 6)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wand of fear</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+1 single bullets x5</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Potion of healing x2</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mithral breastplate (zone 5)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Potion of greater healing (zone 14)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+1 battleaxe (with enchantment, zone 14)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Shield guardian control amulet (zone 3)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Midnight tears (zone 7)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Helm of telepathy (zone 13)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Potion of greater healing (zone 15)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Immovable rod (zone 19E)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spellbook (zone 19E)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Random magic items</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Magical shield</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Flame tongue longsword</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sending stone (only one of the pair, linked to Salida)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bracers of defense</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spellbook</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Serpent venom x20</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Essence of ether x5</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Torpor x5</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ring of protection</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Enchanted gold tankard</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spell scroll of remove curse</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Staff of the python</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mace of terror</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Enchanted ink pot</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spellbook</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Staff of striking</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Amulet of health</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Potion of poison</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Petrified grung egg (pearl of power with poison resistance)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ghost Lantern</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Amulet of the black skull</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Manual of golems (clay)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spellbook</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Gray Slaad control gem</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+1 yklwa</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wand of wonder</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bracers of archery (with enchantment)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Potion of diminution</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bead of force</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+1 shield</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Instruments of the bards (canaith mandolin)</li> </ul><p>Mirror of Life Trapping</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Scorpion armor</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Necklace of fireballs (cursed)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Robe of scintillating colors</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Magic longsword</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Gem of brightness</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Heartstone x3</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Soul bag x3</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spellbook x3</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Hag eye</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Staff of the Forgotten One</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Talisman of the Sphere</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sphere of Annihilation</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Horn-rimmed spectacles</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Music box</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spell scroll of create undead</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spell scroll of fabricate</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spell scroll of resurrection</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spellboox x6</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ring of winter</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bookmark</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Holy Avenger</li> </ul><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>As you can see, ToA's list is MASSIVE. Several of those listed are unlikely to be acquired by the party, but even so... huge list of magic items acquired through the campaign.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Distracted DM, post: 9657758, member: 6894926"] Ha I think my problem in communication is that I consider 3e and afterwards "modern" DnD- it's post-TSR DnD, modern ability score definitions n rules (10=0, 12=+1, etc). But I think you might underestimate the magic items provided in 5e adventures. As far as 5e adventures go, let's look at Curse of Strahd, an adventure that folk often think is low in magic. We see, however, that the number of magical items in it are not few: [SPOILER] [LIST] [*]Possible magic items in Vistanti tents and wagons [*]Icon of Ravenloft [*]Mace of Terror [*]Manual of Bodily Health [*]Instrument of the bards (Doss Lute) [*]Daern's instant fortress [*]+2 shield [*]Alchemy jug [*]Helm of Brilliance [*]+1 rod of the pact keeper [*]Potions of greater healing [*]Potions of healing [*]Potions of poison [*]Potion of heroism [*]+1 intelligent shortsword [*]Saint Markovia's thighbone [*]Deck of Illusions [*]Staff of power [*]Luck Blade [*]Spell scrolls (magic circle, cone of cold, fireball, lightning bolt, protection from fiends, protection from undead, heroe's feast, mass cure wounds, revivify, wall of fire, bless, protection from poison, spiritual weapon) [*]+2 plate armor [*]Elixirs of health [*]Bag of Tricks [*]Ring of warmth [*]Potions of invulnerability [*]+2 greatsword [*]Potion of superior healing [*]Statuette of Saint Markovia [*]Oil of sharpness [*]+1 sling bullets [*]Pipes of haunting [*]Stone of good luck [*]Wand of Secrets [*]Robe of useful items [*]Control amulet for a shield guardian [*]Staff of frost [*]Tome of Understanding [*]Magical ewer [*]Magic battle axe [*]Blood spear [*]Silvered shortsword [*]Silver rapier [*]Cloak of protection [*]Various spellbooks with wizard spells; a library with literally every wizard spell in the game [*]Gulthias staff [*]Holy Symbol of Ravenkind [*]Sunsword [/LIST] [/SPOILER] That's not a bad list. What about Tomb of Annihilation? Forgive the formatting, these lists are other DM's good n helpful work: [SPOILER] [LIST] [*]Volo's Guide to Monsters (for sale) [*]+1 ammunition (for sale) [*]+1 shield, wooden (for sale) [*]+1 dagger (for sale) [*]+1 yklwa (for sale) [/LIST] Ring of resistance [fire] [LIST] [*]Potion, common [*]Potion, uncommon [*]Spell scroll, 1st level [*]Spell scroll, 2nd level [*]Spellbook (reward) [*]Sending stone (only one of the pair, linked to Ras Nsi) [*]Alchemy Jug (zone 6E) [*]Circlet of blasting [*]Nolzur's marvelous pigments (reward) [*]Ring of jumping (reward) [*]Spell scroll of commune with nature (zone 4) [*]Mask of the beast (zone 4) [*]Potion of healing x4 (zone 10G) [*]Spell scroll of lesser restoration x2 (zone 10G) [*]Spell scroll of purify food and drink x2 (zone 10G) [*]+1 arrow x5 (zone 10G) [*]Bowl of commanding water elementals (zone 10G) [*]Sending stones (zone 10I, only one of the pair, linked to Captain Zaroum Al-Saryak) [*]Spell scroll of arcane gate x2 (zone 4) [*]Teleportation circle (zone 6) [*]Moradin's Gauntlet (zone 6) [*]Spell scroll of knock [*]Spell scroll of Leomund's Tiny Hut [*]Potion of water breathing [*]Sending stones (only one of the pair, linked to Liara Portyr) [*]Cape of the mounteback [*]Ring of animal influence [*]Potion of poison x4 (zone 3B) [*]Spell scroll of comprehend languages [*]Potion of greater healing [*]Folding boat (zone 2) [*]Spell scroll of protection from evil and good [undead] (zone 6) [*]Wand of fear [*]+1 single bullets x5 [*]Potion of healing x2 [*]Mithral breastplate (zone 5) [*]Potion of greater healing (zone 14) [*]+1 battleaxe (with enchantment, zone 14) [*]Shield guardian control amulet (zone 3) [*]Midnight tears (zone 7) [*]Helm of telepathy (zone 13) [*]Potion of greater healing (zone 15) [*]Immovable rod (zone 19E) [*]Spellbook (zone 19E) [*]Random magic items [*]Magical shield [*]Flame tongue longsword [*]Sending stone (only one of the pair, linked to Salida) [*]Bracers of defense [*]Spellbook [*]Serpent venom x20 [*]Essence of ether x5 [*]Torpor x5 [*]Ring of protection [*]Enchanted gold tankard [*]Spell scroll of remove curse [*]Staff of the python [*]Mace of terror [*]Enchanted ink pot [*]Spellbook [*]Staff of striking [*]Amulet of health [*]Potion of poison [*]Petrified grung egg (pearl of power with poison resistance) [*]Ghost Lantern [*]Amulet of the black skull [*]Manual of golems (clay) [*]Spellbook [*]Gray Slaad control gem [*]+1 yklwa [*]Wand of wonder [*]Bracers of archery (with enchantment) [*]Potion of diminution [*]Bead of force [*]+1 shield [*]Instruments of the bards (canaith mandolin) [/LIST] Mirror of Life Trapping [LIST] [*]Scorpion armor [*]Necklace of fireballs (cursed) [*]Robe of scintillating colors [*]Magic longsword [*]Gem of brightness [*]Heartstone x3 [*]Soul bag x3 [*]Spellbook x3 [*]Hag eye [*]Staff of the Forgotten One [*]Talisman of the Sphere [*]Sphere of Annihilation [*]Horn-rimmed spectacles [*]Music box [*]Spell scroll of create undead [*]Spell scroll of fabricate [*]Spell scroll of resurrection [*]Spellboox x6 [*]Ring of winter [*]Bookmark [*]Holy Avenger [/LIST] [/SPOILER] As you can see, ToA's list is MASSIVE. Several of those listed are unlikely to be acquired by the party, but even so... huge list of magic items acquired through the campaign. [/QUOTE]
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