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Worlds of Design: Rolls vs. Points in Character Building
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<blockquote data-quote="AaronOfBarbaria" data-source="post: 7984932" data-attributes="member: 6701872"><p>I've had someone watch me roll scores with <em>their dice</em> and <em>still</em> think I had somehow cheated.</p><p></p><p>I've also gone through the fun moment of watching all the players in a campaign roll their scores and then when one player found out what another player had rolled they accused me of letting that player cheat because their scores were high.</p><p></p><p>And I've been in more than a few situations where a player didn't roll well and outright asked "can I reroll?" because when they said "I wanna roll scores" they didn't actually want random scores, they wanted high ones. Including a player that roll all 1s on the dice for one score and said "Can I count that as an 18? It's the same odds" and the rest of the group lobbied to alter the die-rolling rules so that rolling a 3 was actually also rolling an 18.</p><p></p><p>And there there are the groups I've been in that didn't just roll scores, they had some specific scheme like 4d6 drop lowest, re-roll 1s and 2s, make 3 sets and choose your favorite (that is the most extreme I've seen, but it's an actual example, not an exaggeration) that actually takes all the purpose (and fun in my opinion) out of rolling because it makes it take a lot longer than it needs to and the result aren't all that random either so just doing a high-pool point buy would check all the same boxes except "I rolled dice."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AaronOfBarbaria, post: 7984932, member: 6701872"] I've had someone watch me roll scores with [I]their dice[/I] and [I]still[/I] think I had somehow cheated. I've also gone through the fun moment of watching all the players in a campaign roll their scores and then when one player found out what another player had rolled they accused me of letting that player cheat because their scores were high. And I've been in more than a few situations where a player didn't roll well and outright asked "can I reroll?" because when they said "I wanna roll scores" they didn't actually want random scores, they wanted high ones. Including a player that roll all 1s on the dice for one score and said "Can I count that as an 18? It's the same odds" and the rest of the group lobbied to alter the die-rolling rules so that rolling a 3 was actually also rolling an 18. And there there are the groups I've been in that didn't just roll scores, they had some specific scheme like 4d6 drop lowest, re-roll 1s and 2s, make 3 sets and choose your favorite (that is the most extreme I've seen, but it's an actual example, not an exaggeration) that actually takes all the purpose (and fun in my opinion) out of rolling because it makes it take a lot longer than it needs to and the result aren't all that random either so just doing a high-pool point buy would check all the same boxes except "I rolled dice." [/QUOTE]
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