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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 7989756" data-attributes="member: 42582">I don't know Five Torches Deep except as a name.I've played games in which warrior PCs have excelled in non-fighting stuff:, but they're non-D&amp;D games.In one of our long-running Rolemaster campaigns two of the PCs were warriors (and cousins): one was focused almost solely on fighting; the other was a strong warrior but also a master smith, knowledgable in languages and socially rather graceful.In our Prince Valiant game one of the knights is Brawn 3, Presence 4 and more skilled at talking than fighting.To speak in generalities, contemporary D&amp;D tends to emphasise all classes being able to contribute in combat. If you want to use your INT to contribute in combat, you build a wizard. A fighter contributes in combat via STR, DEX and CON, so it would seem to many rather artificial to also create an INT path (unless it is some sort of &lt;pause for effect&gt; warlord-type option).Whereas, and still speaking in generatlisation, both RM and Prince Valiant tend to emphasise there being multiple arenas of action in which various PCs might find themselves involved. A clever or suave warrior is going to shine less in combat than other more physical or single-minded warrior builds, but brings something else to the table.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 7989756, member: 42582"] I don't know Five Torches Deep except as a name. I've played games in which warrior PCs have excelled in non-fighting stuff:, but they're non-D&D games. In one of our long-running Rolemaster campaigns two of the PCs were warriors (and cousins): one was focused almost solely on fighting; the other was a strong warrior but also a master smith, knowledgable in languages and socially rather graceful. In our Prince Valiant game one of the knights is Brawn 3, Presence 4 and more skilled at talking than fighting. To speak in generalities, contemporary D&D tends to emphasise all classes being able to contribute in combat. If you want to use your INT to contribute in combat, you build a wizard. A fighter contributes in combat via STR, DEX and CON, so it would seem to many rather artificial to also create an INT path (unless it is some sort of <pause for effect> warlord-type option). Whereas, and still speaking in generatlisation, both RM and Prince Valiant tend to emphasise there being multiple arenas of action in which various PCs might find themselves involved. A clever or suave warrior is going to shine less in combat than other more physical or single-minded warrior builds, but brings something else to the table. [/QUOTE]

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