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Worlds of Design: RPG Gods - Benign or Malign?
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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 8728968" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>That would be very much in line with what I just said. In fact, that distinction would be exactly on point. That 2HD radish spirit is a kami, but not an ō-kami. However, both are worshiped, revered, given homage, and propitiated.</p><p></p><p>Technically, in 3e D&D, a "god" is anything with Divine Rank of 1 or higher. All beings with Divine Rank 1 or higher in my game world have the same origin - they are either birthed from one of the seven fruit of the World Tree or else they are the descendants of one of those beings. They are phenomenally powerful beings, capable of when acting together especially doing almost anything.</p><p></p><p>But yes, you are no delving into one of the heresies of my game world. I believe in particular that's Gantroism - the gods are merely powerful supernatural beings and not especially worthy of worship. They should be deferred to only as you would defer to anyone with wisdom and greatness. So you would be, if you were in my game world a Gantroist, and depending on where you vocalized that particular belief, you'd find yourself in jail needing to recant it or face execution. </p><p></p><p>I take no particular stance on whether Gantro of Corval was correct, but I will say that if your concept of a god is that you must be an all-powerful being capable of creating the heavens and the earth, the gods do fall short of that however mightier than mortals that they can be, and there is a general awareness that the gods were in fact created, and that something probably created the world tree. There are a variety of All-Father/All-Mother cults on my homeworld, but notably, they can't work miracles, can't display divine power, and have no spell wielding priesthood. The same is true of the cults and philosophers that worship The Cascade or The World Tree. So the general consensus is that if such a creator exists, either he's dead, or he's uncaring, or he was never sentient in the first place. The cults of the gods claim divinity in the sense you try to define it of "ō-kami" therefore in an uncontested fashion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 8728968, member: 4937"] That would be very much in line with what I just said. In fact, that distinction would be exactly on point. That 2HD radish spirit is a kami, but not an ō-kami. However, both are worshiped, revered, given homage, and propitiated. Technically, in 3e D&D, a "god" is anything with Divine Rank of 1 or higher. All beings with Divine Rank 1 or higher in my game world have the same origin - they are either birthed from one of the seven fruit of the World Tree or else they are the descendants of one of those beings. They are phenomenally powerful beings, capable of when acting together especially doing almost anything. But yes, you are no delving into one of the heresies of my game world. I believe in particular that's Gantroism - the gods are merely powerful supernatural beings and not especially worthy of worship. They should be deferred to only as you would defer to anyone with wisdom and greatness. So you would be, if you were in my game world a Gantroist, and depending on where you vocalized that particular belief, you'd find yourself in jail needing to recant it or face execution. I take no particular stance on whether Gantro of Corval was correct, but I will say that if your concept of a god is that you must be an all-powerful being capable of creating the heavens and the earth, the gods do fall short of that however mightier than mortals that they can be, and there is a general awareness that the gods were in fact created, and that something probably created the world tree. There are a variety of All-Father/All-Mother cults on my homeworld, but notably, they can't work miracles, can't display divine power, and have no spell wielding priesthood. The same is true of the cults and philosophers that worship The Cascade or The World Tree. So the general consensus is that if such a creator exists, either he's dead, or he's uncaring, or he was never sentient in the first place. The cults of the gods claim divinity in the sense you try to define it of "ō-kami" therefore in an uncontested fashion. [/QUOTE]
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