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Worlds of Design: RPG Gods - Benign or Malign?
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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8728970" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>I may have poorly explained myself.</p><p></p><p>If "divinity," in-setting, means <em>literally actually</em> <strong>all</strong> things, no exceptions, running from "the literal actual sun, who is coming over to say hi and maybe start an imperial dynasty" to "literally just a radish that can talk," then "divinity" has become so watered-down as a concept as to be pretty much worthless. The word has become devalued in essentially the same way as "awesome," which now just means "a mostly to very positive thing" as opposed to "something which truly inspires awe." It would be better, and more accurate, to come up with a <em>new</em> term (or repurpose an old term) which has "divinity" as a more-specific subset, like spirit, daemon, etc. Hence my comparison between "kami" and "ō-kami": "kami" is a wide-ranging word that can refer to almost any supernatural being from the lowliest plant-spirits to Amaterasu the Queen of Heaven, while "ō-kami" is <em>only</em> for beings like Amaterasu, Susanoo, Tsukuyomi, etc.; it recognizes that, to the Shinto religion, these are a spectrum and not a sharp distinction, while still <em>having</em> a distinction.</p><p></p><p>I prefer the word "divinity" to refer to things that legitimately are at the very least "extremely powerful supernatural beings," and (as a rule) prefer them to be things which truly <em>merit</em> awe and reverence. The 2HD radish spirit does not merit awe and, at least from my perspective, doesn't merit any more reverence than seeing, say, a snake or a wolpertinger in your (fantasy) garden. Consequently, it is not "divine," even if it is a (theoretically) benevolent spirit of holy origins. Conversely, a literal actual "god of evil" is perfectly sensible, because being worthy of awe and reverence does not necessitate being <em>good</em>, even if it ends up being in truth "just" a powerful supernatural being and not a proper "god" in the strict sense.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8728970, member: 6790260"] I may have poorly explained myself. If "divinity," in-setting, means [I]literally actually[/I] [B]all[/B] things, no exceptions, running from "the literal actual sun, who is coming over to say hi and maybe start an imperial dynasty" to "literally just a radish that can talk," then "divinity" has become so watered-down as a concept as to be pretty much worthless. The word has become devalued in essentially the same way as "awesome," which now just means "a mostly to very positive thing" as opposed to "something which truly inspires awe." It would be better, and more accurate, to come up with a [I]new[/I] term (or repurpose an old term) which has "divinity" as a more-specific subset, like spirit, daemon, etc. Hence my comparison between "kami" and "ō-kami": "kami" is a wide-ranging word that can refer to almost any supernatural being from the lowliest plant-spirits to Amaterasu the Queen of Heaven, while "ō-kami" is [I]only[/I] for beings like Amaterasu, Susanoo, Tsukuyomi, etc.; it recognizes that, to the Shinto religion, these are a spectrum and not a sharp distinction, while still [I]having[/I] a distinction. I prefer the word "divinity" to refer to things that legitimately are at the very least "extremely powerful supernatural beings," and (as a rule) prefer them to be things which truly [I]merit[/I] awe and reverence. The 2HD radish spirit does not merit awe and, at least from my perspective, doesn't merit any more reverence than seeing, say, a snake or a wolpertinger in your (fantasy) garden. Consequently, it is not "divine," even if it is a (theoretically) benevolent spirit of holy origins. Conversely, a literal actual "god of evil" is perfectly sensible, because being worthy of awe and reverence does not necessitate being [I]good[/I], even if it ends up being in truth "just" a powerful supernatural being and not a proper "god" in the strict sense. [/QUOTE]
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