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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 8731036" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>One of the main problems with the Gygaxian Great Wheel is that it has as a necessary feature the infinite planes of the material universe. The infinite planes of the material universe are necessary to balance all the other infinities. Since I didn't want to do "everything is real" in my already kitchen sink universe, it was necessary to cut down the size of the whole universe. It's possible that the entire universe I'm describing is no bigger than the real-world solar system.</p><p></p><p>That's still incomprehensibly vast, but it no longer has the problem of infinity of everything. Further, one of the biggest incongruities in the Gygaxian Great Wheel is how small a figure like Zeus is (finite) compared to his presumed infinite duties on infinite planes with possibly infinite worshipers and infinite subjects, or how the City of Brass or Sigil is not an infinitely large city given their prominence to infinite beings and infinite planes. It's therefore manageable in a way that Gygax's Great Wheel isn't and things I think fit better in it relative to their scale while still retaining the wonderful Gygaxian quality of being able to throw the kitchen sink into it and it's all fine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 8731036, member: 4937"] One of the main problems with the Gygaxian Great Wheel is that it has as a necessary feature the infinite planes of the material universe. The infinite planes of the material universe are necessary to balance all the other infinities. Since I didn't want to do "everything is real" in my already kitchen sink universe, it was necessary to cut down the size of the whole universe. It's possible that the entire universe I'm describing is no bigger than the real-world solar system. That's still incomprehensibly vast, but it no longer has the problem of infinity of everything. Further, one of the biggest incongruities in the Gygaxian Great Wheel is how small a figure like Zeus is (finite) compared to his presumed infinite duties on infinite planes with possibly infinite worshipers and infinite subjects, or how the City of Brass or Sigil is not an infinitely large city given their prominence to infinite beings and infinite planes. It's therefore manageable in a way that Gygax's Great Wheel isn't and things I think fit better in it relative to their scale while still retaining the wonderful Gygaxian quality of being able to throw the kitchen sink into it and it's all fine. [/QUOTE]
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