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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 8733703" data-attributes="member: 58172">If both Paladin and Warlock exist in a setting, I see no problem with a character concept doing both. The 5e Paladin is normally nontheistic. A character concept can try to straddle the tension between benefiting from a Warlock patron while striving to maintain the Paladin code of conduct.On the other hand, if the player wants the Warlock patron to be an archfey, but fey doesnt exist at all in the setting, then the DM and the player need to session-zero this to figure out how something analogous might work.I had an issue when playing a 3e game. The DM was fine with whatever sacred concept I wanted for my Cleric. In this case, the problem was, the DM hated cantrips. But for me, I hated mundane weapons. The mundaned caused my character to feel nonmagical in practice. I insisted on a magical at-will. The comprise we reached was: I played an elf character who therefore had bow proficiency. Because of the sacred concept of light as both energy and awareness, the arrows were shafts of light (comparing the D&D cartoon). Mechanically, they were exactly the same as normal arrows, except, they never ran out, and were in fact luminous daylight, in situations where that might matter. For me, it was sufficiently magical for the flavor, and for the 3e DM it was sufficiently mundane, even if with "elven magic." Both of us came away happy with the negotiation.In my eyes, that isnt "character concept", that is roleplay. Unless the monarch is also the players character, it is the DM who roleplays the monarch.Yeah.If the DM and player agree on something that impacts both character and world, the DM needs to tweak the world to make room for the concept. It can be work for the DM. A player needs to make sure the DM is having fun too. (We take turns DMing, so we inherently see things from a DMs point of view too.)Heh, to kill a D&D "god" can be a reasonable ambition. But it wont be happening during any levels soon.</blockquote>

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