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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 8148008" data-attributes="member: 6803643">I'd argue that the group you listed up there do fit that archetype of not caring until they do, but also they grow into their heroism. Han Solo is not a big darn hero in Solo. He makes a lot of mistakes. He's flawed, and not just in his character, but in his abilities. He's stumbling through the adventure and out to make a name for himself, and to pay off the debts and live large, until he makes the choice to help the fledgling rebellion under Enfys Nest and shoot his mentor first, before his mentor shoots him. He still has a long way to go to being the hero he is in V-VI-VII (IV will do a lot for him), but Solo shows that trajectory from nobody sewer rat car-snatcher to outlaw with a heart of gold.I specifically left Din Djarin off the list as he's a pretty accomplished bounty hunter and part of a proud warrior society with special armour and weapons from the very first chapter of the series. Dr. Strange and Tony Stark and Kanan were all corner cases - they have abilities/money/notoriety before the start of the story, but these are not what define them in the context of the story. Kanan is running from his Jedi self, doesn't even want to be part of the Rebellion, he just wants to help the woman he loves (Hera) do some good. Dr. Strange and Tony Stark both become defined by powers not held before the start of their stories, but rather by new skills and powers picked up over their journey, though driven by similar motives and personality quirks that their original backgrounds played on. Both fit very well in the Don't Care, but now do, though. As for Flynn, yeah, he was probably even more of a corner case. I guess I was looking at Eugene's trajectory into the Great Flynn Rider, and then into Eugene the thief with a heart of gold who wants to protect and help Raps, and then into the Captain of the Guard of Corona, cleaning up his act and becoming the very lawful good hero he once was the foil to. It takes a long road to get him there, though, and it's worth a watch (EVERYONE should watch Tangled the Series aka Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure. It's just 3 seasons long).</blockquote>

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