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<blockquote data-quote="kigmatzomat" data-source="post: 9320275" data-attributes="member: 9254"><p>Marginal utility is the term you're looking for. It's like is it worth it to spend $10k on a crap car or $30k for a solid car? Generally the $30k car is a better choice from maintenance, performance, and experience. Is it worth going to a $90k luxury car? Not for most people. They'd spend that extra money on other things, like a home or a second car. There's a lot of marginal utility to most families to having 2 or 3 vehicles.</p><p></p><p>How about a $500k supercar? No, only people with money to burn go for that nonsense.</p><p></p><p>So in 3e, which had an official price guide for magic items, one +3 weapon cost 18,000gp, which is enough to buy 9 +1 weapons (2,000gp ea). Or 450x +1 arrows (40gp ea). Given that magic weapons are needed to injure some creatures, having more weapons in more hands is a better choice</p><p></p><p>Or to break it down further, a noble could buy one +3 weapon, or equip 4 bodyguards with a +1 weapon (2,000gp), +1 armor (1,000gp) and +1 shields (1,00gp) and still have ~2,000gp to spend on potions. That's a much more beneficial boost than one person with a +3 sword...unless that one person gets many attacks, like a high level adventurer.</p><p></p><p>And from a simple "hit better" standpoint, Masterwork weapons only cost 300gp and provide a similar combat boost to a magic +1 weapon. You could buy 60x masterwork swords for bows) for that single +3 sword, which militarily is a significant increase in performance. Or maybe you just hire & equip another unit of troops.</p><p></p><p>Although if you have a cadre of casters, scrolls of Magic Weapon spells are an inexpensive way to have a boost on demand. And it's super funny as a gm when priests use those scrolls on barrels of arrows so every archer in a squad gets a magic arrow for a volley of "monk go home! Or even better, don't!"</p><p></p><p>So that's why no squads with +3 weapons even if they were available. It'd be a silly waste. Like buying a social media site just to make a point and then lose $Billions. Sure, someone could afford it, but they'd have to be a giant galaxy-brained man-child convinced of their infallibility. Never happen in real life.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kigmatzomat, post: 9320275, member: 9254"] Marginal utility is the term you're looking for. It's like is it worth it to spend $10k on a crap car or $30k for a solid car? Generally the $30k car is a better choice from maintenance, performance, and experience. Is it worth going to a $90k luxury car? Not for most people. They'd spend that extra money on other things, like a home or a second car. There's a lot of marginal utility to most families to having 2 or 3 vehicles. How about a $500k supercar? No, only people with money to burn go for that nonsense. So in 3e, which had an official price guide for magic items, one +3 weapon cost 18,000gp, which is enough to buy 9 +1 weapons (2,000gp ea). Or 450x +1 arrows (40gp ea). Given that magic weapons are needed to injure some creatures, having more weapons in more hands is a better choice Or to break it down further, a noble could buy one +3 weapon, or equip 4 bodyguards with a +1 weapon (2,000gp), +1 armor (1,000gp) and +1 shields (1,00gp) and still have ~2,000gp to spend on potions. That's a much more beneficial boost than one person with a +3 sword...unless that one person gets many attacks, like a high level adventurer. And from a simple "hit better" standpoint, Masterwork weapons only cost 300gp and provide a similar combat boost to a magic +1 weapon. You could buy 60x masterwork swords for bows) for that single +3 sword, which militarily is a significant increase in performance. Or maybe you just hire & equip another unit of troops. Although if you have a cadre of casters, scrolls of Magic Weapon spells are an inexpensive way to have a boost on demand. And it's super funny as a gm when priests use those scrolls on barrels of arrows so every archer in a squad gets a magic arrow for a volley of "monk go home! Or even better, don't!" So that's why no squads with +3 weapons even if they were available. It'd be a silly waste. Like buying a social media site just to make a point and then lose $Billions. Sure, someone could afford it, but they'd have to be a giant galaxy-brained man-child convinced of their infallibility. Never happen in real life. [/QUOTE]
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