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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 9331811" data-attributes="member: 4937">Look, a whole field of burning scarecrows!Do you know what a Guild is?&nbsp; Your argument is both irrelevant and wrong.Not content to burn down one field of straw men, you go after another.Look, I don't even feel particularly compelled to refute your arguments because it's pretty clear you have no idea what I argued.&nbsp; The fact that you didn't even particularly read through to my arguments or conclusions is proven by this statement.If you'd actually read any of my posts, you would realize that this so called &quot;ignored possibility&quot; is exactly the state of affairs that I claimed would prevail under standard D&amp;D demographic assumptions.&nbsp; So for all your snarky attempt to make me look bad, we actually agree!&nbsp; You just wrote a flame post to ultimately espouse the very conclusion I made.In my campaign world, an 11th level magic-user would probably be the most powerful wizard in the kingdom, and as such if he was willing to make magic items at all you would be inherently bidding against the king for his services who would no doubt what to appoint him the court wizard and monopolize his power as much as possible.&nbsp; But all of that is irrelevant, because all your trying to do is prove that it might be possible to buy a magic item.&nbsp; And that means that not only do you not understand what I argued, but that you don't understand what the thread is about.&nbsp; The thread is about whether or not it is realistic or necessary to a D&amp;D setting to walk into any town and expect virtually whatever magic item you desire to be available for purchase and already on the shelf in a sort of magic big box store - a &quot;magic mart&quot;.&nbsp; The question is not whether there exists a 11th level wizard capable of making a magic item and selling it, but whether the marketplace of magic items would produce such surplus production that entire warehouses of useful items would be sitting around awaiting purchase.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 9331811, member: 4937"] Look, a whole field of burning scarecrows! Do you know what a Guild is? Your argument is both irrelevant and wrong. Not content to burn down one field of straw men, you go after another. Look, I don't even feel particularly compelled to refute your arguments because it's pretty clear you have no idea what I argued. The fact that you didn't even particularly read through to my arguments or conclusions is proven by this statement. If you'd actually read any of my posts, you would realize that this so called "ignored possibility" is exactly the state of affairs that I claimed would prevail under standard D&D demographic assumptions. So for all your snarky attempt to make me look bad, we actually agree! You just wrote a flame post to ultimately espouse the very conclusion I made. In my campaign world, an 11th level magic-user would probably be the most powerful wizard in the kingdom, and as such if he was willing to make magic items at all you would be inherently bidding against the king for his services who would no doubt what to appoint him the court wizard and monopolize his power as much as possible. But all of that is irrelevant, because all your trying to do is prove that it might be possible to buy a magic item. And that means that not only do you not understand what I argued, but that you don't understand what the thread is about. The thread is about whether or not it is realistic or necessary to a D&D setting to walk into any town and expect virtually whatever magic item you desire to be available for purchase and already on the shelf in a sort of magic big box store - a "magic mart". The question is not whether there exists a 11th level wizard capable of making a magic item and selling it, but whether the marketplace of magic items would produce such surplus production that entire warehouses of useful items would be sitting around awaiting purchase. [/QUOTE]

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