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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 9332056" data-attributes="member: 6877472">Well, Clerics and Thieves can use Belts of Giant Strength as well.&nbsp; A friend of mine had an Elven Thief in 2e who got his hands on a belt of Stone Giant Strength and suddenly he was (thanks to two weapon fighting) able to crank out some hefty damage numbers in melee...for about 2 seconds until monsters decided he needed to die in a fire lol and realized &quot;hey there's this elf in leather armor with a d6 hit die kicking our butts&quot;.&nbsp; The one time I saw him actually be able to backstab was epic (though mostly only because the DM refused to accept that backstab only multiplies weapon dice for some reason- you ever have that?&nbsp; A DM who is super strict about most things, but then randomly allows something the players have to be way more powerful than it should be?).So it really can be a useful item for most classes, but I can see why a Wizard might think it's a&nbsp; minor item because they, themselves can't use it (being class-locked*)...but, I don't know, surely they have an ally or bodyguard they could put the thing on?*Class-locked magic items are an interesting concept and one I'd like to discuss sometime, but I don't know that it deserves it's own thread.&nbsp; I just recall an incident with the infamous cursed belt (you know the one) where a Wizard tried it on, the DM is like &quot;ahahahaha, curse!&quot; and I was like &quot;but the DMG says Wizards can't use that belt&quot;.He looked at me funny, checked the book, and outright declared that was stupid, lol.&nbsp; Then as evidence presented one of the D&amp;D trading cards (anyone remember those?), which presented a hapless Wizard (with the Amazon Kit, somehow?) who was a victim of said belt.&nbsp; &quot;Ok, so does that mean Wizards can use Girdles of Giant Strength?&quot;&quot;No, that would be silly.&quot;Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 9332056, member: 6877472"] Well, Clerics and Thieves can use Belts of Giant Strength as well. A friend of mine had an Elven Thief in 2e who got his hands on a belt of Stone Giant Strength and suddenly he was (thanks to two weapon fighting) able to crank out some hefty damage numbers in melee...for about 2 seconds until monsters decided he needed to die in a fire lol and realized "hey there's this elf in leather armor with a d6 hit die kicking our butts". The one time I saw him actually be able to backstab was epic (though mostly only because the DM refused to accept that backstab only multiplies weapon dice for some reason- you ever have that? A DM who is super strict about most things, but then randomly allows something the players have to be way more powerful than it should be?). So it really can be a useful item for most classes, but I can see why a Wizard might think it's a minor item because they, themselves can't use it (being class-locked*)...but, I don't know, surely they have an ally or bodyguard they could put the thing on? *Class-locked magic items are an interesting concept and one I'd like to discuss sometime, but I don't know that it deserves it's own thread. I just recall an incident with the infamous cursed belt (you know the one) where a Wizard tried it on, the DM is like "ahahahaha, curse!" and I was like "but the DMG says Wizards can't use that belt". He looked at me funny, checked the book, and outright declared that was stupid, lol. Then as evidence presented one of the D&D trading cards (anyone remember those?), which presented a hapless Wizard (with the Amazon Kit, somehow?) who was a victim of said belt. "Ok, so does that mean Wizards can use Girdles of Giant Strength?" "No, that would be silly." Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. [/QUOTE]

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