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<blockquote data-quote="Theory of Games" data-source="post: 9447490" data-attributes="member: 7042201"><p>D&D is a simulation of life? What did Gary say about his game?</p><p><em></em></p><p><em>"Of the two approaches to hobby games today, one is best defined as the <strong>realism-simulation</strong> school and the other as the<strong> game</strong> school. AD&D is assuredly an adherent of the latter school. It does not stress any realism (in the author's opinion an absurd effort at best considering the topic!). It does little to attempt to simulate anything either."</em></p><p></p><p>I'm forced to disagree with your other point that monsters shouldn't just jump out and attack. Some of the most successful films of all time have monsters that do just that. <em>Jaws</em>. <em>Alien</em>. <em>Jurassic Park</em>. Most horror films. It's scary and fun and exactly why we love films like those. So if it works for film and ttrpgs are designed to emulate fiction ....................</p><p></p><p>You wrote we should consider how we might interact with a bear. Hmmm. Since bears have and will literally slaughter a human being on sight for any number of reasons, I'm tagging my interaction as shooting or RUNNING. IMO you seem to be giving the monsters too much sensibility. </p><p></p><p>But it IS just fantasy, right? So when the party bumps into a pack of Worg wolves, the PCs should attempt to establish civil communication, first and foremost <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f606.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":LOL:" title="Laugh :LOL:" data-smilie="17"data-shortname=":LOL:" /> This is a GREAT article! It reminds me that I am running my monsters correctly.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmmmm. But it IS a game that requires (in most editions) that the PCs kill monsters to gain XP in order to level-up, yes? Even in reality, the point is made: the state of California literally hunted the grizzly bears in that region to extinction. Why? Because bears eat people. Not exactly sensible, those bears.</p><p></p><p>LOVED this article! Please keep them coming <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f44d.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="(y)" title="Thumbs up (y)" data-smilie="22"data-shortname="(y)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Theory of Games, post: 9447490, member: 7042201"] D&D is a simulation of life? What did Gary say about his game? [I] "Of the two approaches to hobby games today, one is best defined as the [B]realism-simulation[/B] school and the other as the[B] game[/B] school. AD&D is assuredly an adherent of the latter school. It does not stress any realism (in the author's opinion an absurd effort at best considering the topic!). It does little to attempt to simulate anything either."[/I] I'm forced to disagree with your other point that monsters shouldn't just jump out and attack. Some of the most successful films of all time have monsters that do just that. [I]Jaws[/I]. [I]Alien[/I]. [I]Jurassic Park[/I]. Most horror films. It's scary and fun and exactly why we love films like those. So if it works for film and ttrpgs are designed to emulate fiction .................... You wrote we should consider how we might interact with a bear. Hmmm. Since bears have and will literally slaughter a human being on sight for any number of reasons, I'm tagging my interaction as shooting or RUNNING. IMO you seem to be giving the monsters too much sensibility. But it IS just fantasy, right? So when the party bumps into a pack of Worg wolves, the PCs should attempt to establish civil communication, first and foremost :LOL: This is a GREAT article! It reminds me that I am running my monsters correctly. Hmmmm. But it IS a game that requires (in most editions) that the PCs kill monsters to gain XP in order to level-up, yes? Even in reality, the point is made: the state of California literally hunted the grizzly bears in that region to extinction. Why? Because bears eat people. Not exactly sensible, those bears. LOVED this article! Please keep them coming (y) [/QUOTE]
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