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<blockquote data-quote="lewpuls" data-source="post: 8167296" data-attributes="member: 30518"><p>It’s a daunting task to try to define and characterize a segment as large and diverse as tabletop role-playing games in just a few words. But here goes.</p><p></p><p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH=full]131071[/ATTACH]</p> <p style="text-align: center"><a href="https://pixabay.com/photos/form-character-pen-1264999/" target="_blank">Picture courtesy of Pixabay.</a></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p><p></p><p></p><p>Some people won’t be happy with my definitions--which is my opinion, drawn from experience. But the purpose of such exercises is (aside from encouraging people to think) to narrow down something so that we can talk about it intelligibly.</p><h2>Defining the Undefinable</h2><p>There are two ways to define something: 1) specific (as in a dictionary), but this usually leads to dispute even when what’s being defined is a single word; or 2) describe typical characteristics, even if it’s possible that some will not have <strong>all </strong>of those characteristics. I’m trying the latter, being general enough to think all the characteristics are necessary.</p><p></p><p>What makes an RPG a tabletop hobby RPG? An RPG, as we talk about them in the hobby, is a human-opposed co-operative game. There are four characteristics:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Avatars,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">progressive improvement,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">co-operation, and</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">GMed opposed adventure.</li> </ul><p>Simple enough, but in defining a concept it’s sometimes easier to explain what it isn’t.</p><h3><strong>What RPGs Are Not</strong></h3><p>Role-playing games, as defined by the last word, are games and therefore require opposition. An RPG is not a puzzle (with a correct solution); an RPG is not a means for the GM to tell a story (reducing player agency immensely); an RPG is not a storytelling mechanism, whether for players to tell each other stories, or for the GM to tell a story. These things all exist, but to include them in the definition goes far beyond the realm of <strong>game</strong>. A game is a form of play, but most forms of play are not games.</p><h3>Not Just Role-Playing</h3><p>Technically, a role-playing game may be any game where you play a role – which is a LOT of games, tabletop and (especially) video. It even includes some business simulations. I’m more interested in what makes a game a hobby RPG, a game played frequently by hobby game players. So I’ll discuss role-playing in terms of avatars.</p><h3><strong>What’s a “Pure” or “Real” Avatar?</strong></h3> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A single thing/entity that represents the individual player, most commonly a humanoid</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">All the player’s actions in the game emanate from the avatar</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The “pure” avatar is fully subject to risk: if it dies/is destroyed, the player loses (at least temporarily)</li> </ul><p>An avatar could be a spaceship, a tank (<em>World of Tanks</em>) or other vehicle, even a pizza-shape (<em>Pac-Man</em>). In video games, the avatar typically respawns. In hobby RPGs, the avatar is a creature, usually human or humanoid. (For more detail, read "<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?4653-The-Most-Important-Design-Aspect-of-Hobby-RPGs-Is-The-Pure-Humanoid-Avatar#.WgO672iPKUk" target="_blank">The most important design aspect of hobby RPGs is the Pure Avatar</a>".)</p><p></p><p>Avatars sometimes have a separate developer-provided “history” and personality (Mario, Sonic). Sometimes an avatar is a blank slate so that the player can more easily infuse his/her own personality or fictional character background into the avatar.</p><p></p><p>In many games, a "kind-of-avatar" is not the source of all action, nor does the game end if the avatar is killed. That’s not an RPG.</p><h3><strong>Progressive Improvement</strong></h3><p>This can happen in many kinds of games. But in what we call RPGs, it’s some variety of:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Gaining experience to rise in levels, and the levels give more capability (though the term “level” might not be used)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Gaining skills/feats/features (which give more capability)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Collecting magic or technological items (which provide extra options, defense, offense, etc.)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Acquiring money/treasure (which can be used for lots of things)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">No doubt there are some RPGs with other ways to improve, for example via social standing if that is formally tracked</li> </ul><p>Does it need levels? No, but that's typically (conveniently) how increase in capability “without employing the loot I've got” is expressed.</p><p></p><p>So a game where the hero(es) don’t progress in capability – or only a little – might be an interesting game, but it’s not an RPG. Many of you can think of board, card, or video games of this kind. Well-known heroes in novel series rarely progress significantly in capability, for example James Bond.</p><p></p><p>You can have avatars without progression, you can have roles without “pure” avatars, you can have progression without avatars, but those are not what we categorize as RPGs.</p><h3><strong>Co-operation, Adventure, and a Gamemaster That Controls the Opposition/Enables Adventure</strong></h3> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Yes, opposition. It’s not a game (I use the traditional sense) without opposition, though it might be a puzzle or a parallel competition</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I don’t see how there can be <strong>significant </strong>opposition without a GM/referee; unless you go to computer programming</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">If there’s no co-operation, if it’s player vs player, it’s more or less a board/card game in concept</li> </ul><p>I include <strong>Adventure</strong>, because the stories coming out of the original RPGs would be called adventures. In the 21st century we do have novels that don’t seem to have any particular point other than describing everyday life, and I think that’s leaked over into so-called RPGs as well. Whether adventure is necessary is a debatable point (surprise), though <em>I’m</em> certainly not interested in RPGs without Adventure.</p><p></p><p>The GM also allows the players to try to do “anything” that could be done in the current situation. Some regard this freedom-of-action (extreme player agency) as the defining aspect of RPGs, and it’s certainly vital; but think of a story RPG where the linear plot (typical of stories) forces players to do just what the story calls for. That’s not freedom of action. Yet story form may be the most common form of tabletop RPG.</p><p></p><p>And consider games like <strong><em>Minecraft</em></strong>. You can try to do almost anything there, too, but it's not an RPG.</p><p></p><p>Where does this leave computer RPGs? There’s not exactly a GM, though the computer tries to be. There’s certainly not as much freedom of action as with a human GM . . . But my goal was to define hobby tabletop RPGs.</p><p></p><p><strong>Your Turn: What’s your definition of a role-playing game?</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lewpuls, post: 8167296, member: 30518"] It’s a daunting task to try to define and characterize a segment as large and diverse as tabletop role-playing games in just a few words. But here goes. [CENTER][ATTACH type="full" alt="rpg.jpg"]131071[/ATTACH] [URL='https://pixabay.com/photos/form-character-pen-1264999/']Picture courtesy of Pixabay.[/URL] [/CENTER] Some people won’t be happy with my definitions--which is my opinion, drawn from experience. But the purpose of such exercises is (aside from encouraging people to think) to narrow down something so that we can talk about it intelligibly. [HEADING=1]Defining the Undefinable[/HEADING] There are two ways to define something: 1) specific (as in a dictionary), but this usually leads to dispute even when what’s being defined is a single word; or 2) describe typical characteristics, even if it’s possible that some will not have [B]all [/B]of those characteristics. I’m trying the latter, being general enough to think all the characteristics are necessary. What makes an RPG a tabletop hobby RPG? An RPG, as we talk about them in the hobby, is a human-opposed co-operative game. There are four characteristics: [LIST] [*]Avatars, [*]progressive improvement, [*]co-operation, and [*]GMed opposed adventure. [/LIST] Simple enough, but in defining a concept it’s sometimes easier to explain what it isn’t. [HEADING=2][B]What RPGs Are Not[/B][/HEADING] Role-playing games, as defined by the last word, are games and therefore require opposition. An RPG is not a puzzle (with a correct solution); an RPG is not a means for the GM to tell a story (reducing player agency immensely); an RPG is not a storytelling mechanism, whether for players to tell each other stories, or for the GM to tell a story. These things all exist, but to include them in the definition goes far beyond the realm of [B]game[/B]. A game is a form of play, but most forms of play are not games. [HEADING=2]Not Just Role-Playing[/HEADING] Technically, a role-playing game may be any game where you play a role – which is a LOT of games, tabletop and (especially) video. It even includes some business simulations. I’m more interested in what makes a game a hobby RPG, a game played frequently by hobby game players. So I’ll discuss role-playing in terms of avatars. [HEADING=2][B]What’s a “Pure” or “Real” Avatar?[/B][/HEADING] [LIST] [*]A single thing/entity that represents the individual player, most commonly a humanoid [*]All the player’s actions in the game emanate from the avatar [*]The “pure” avatar is fully subject to risk: if it dies/is destroyed, the player loses (at least temporarily) [/LIST] An avatar could be a spaceship, a tank ([I]World of Tanks[/I]) or other vehicle, even a pizza-shape ([I]Pac-Man[/I]). In video games, the avatar typically respawns. In hobby RPGs, the avatar is a creature, usually human or humanoid. (For more detail, read "[URL='http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?4653-The-Most-Important-Design-Aspect-of-Hobby-RPGs-Is-The-Pure-Humanoid-Avatar#.WgO672iPKUk']The most important design aspect of hobby RPGs is the Pure Avatar[/URL]".) Avatars sometimes have a separate developer-provided “history” and personality (Mario, Sonic). Sometimes an avatar is a blank slate so that the player can more easily infuse his/her own personality or fictional character background into the avatar. In many games, a "kind-of-avatar" is not the source of all action, nor does the game end if the avatar is killed. That’s not an RPG. [HEADING=2][B]Progressive Improvement[/B][/HEADING] This can happen in many kinds of games. But in what we call RPGs, it’s some variety of: [LIST] [*]Gaining experience to rise in levels, and the levels give more capability (though the term “level” might not be used) [*]Gaining skills/feats/features (which give more capability) [*]Collecting magic or technological items (which provide extra options, defense, offense, etc.) [*]Acquiring money/treasure (which can be used for lots of things) [*]No doubt there are some RPGs with other ways to improve, for example via social standing if that is formally tracked [/LIST] Does it need levels? No, but that's typically (conveniently) how increase in capability “without employing the loot I've got” is expressed. So a game where the hero(es) don’t progress in capability – or only a little – might be an interesting game, but it’s not an RPG. Many of you can think of board, card, or video games of this kind. Well-known heroes in novel series rarely progress significantly in capability, for example James Bond. You can have avatars without progression, you can have roles without “pure” avatars, you can have progression without avatars, but those are not what we categorize as RPGs. [HEADING=2][B]Co-operation, Adventure, and a Gamemaster That Controls the Opposition/Enables Adventure[/B][/HEADING] [LIST] [*]Yes, opposition. It’s not a game (I use the traditional sense) without opposition, though it might be a puzzle or a parallel competition [*]I don’t see how there can be [B]significant [/B]opposition without a GM/referee; unless you go to computer programming [*]If there’s no co-operation, if it’s player vs player, it’s more or less a board/card game in concept [/LIST] I include [B]Adventure[/B], because the stories coming out of the original RPGs would be called adventures. In the 21st century we do have novels that don’t seem to have any particular point other than describing everyday life, and I think that’s leaked over into so-called RPGs as well. Whether adventure is necessary is a debatable point (surprise), though [I]I’m[/I] certainly not interested in RPGs without Adventure. The GM also allows the players to try to do “anything” that could be done in the current situation. Some regard this freedom-of-action (extreme player agency) as the defining aspect of RPGs, and it’s certainly vital; but think of a story RPG where the linear plot (typical of stories) forces players to do just what the story calls for. That’s not freedom of action. Yet story form may be the most common form of tabletop RPG. And consider games like [B][I]Minecraft[/I][/B]. You can try to do almost anything there, too, but it's not an RPG. Where does this leave computer RPGs? There’s not exactly a GM, though the computer tries to be. There’s certainly not as much freedom of action as with a human GM . . . But my goal was to define hobby tabletop RPGs. [B]Your Turn: What’s your definition of a role-playing game?[/B] [/QUOTE]
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