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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 8193251" data-attributes="member: 7026617">Well, there's another side to that though; there's no lack of people from either the GM seat or the player seat complaining about games they're in to one degree or another.&nbsp; So I think its legitimate to question how much of that is flaws with the basic process of the games they choose that they're not realizing contribute to this.Where it gets off the rails is when you go in sure that's what the problem is, rather than just suggesting that there can be reasons for someone to keep playing a game that's part of the source of the problem (this is particularly easy to suggest with something like the current version of D&amp;D which has such a big networking footprint that its easy to see situations where people continue to play it because it What You Play locally in a lot of places). You aren't sure; its speculation, possibly thought through speculation with some general foundation, but you can't just take it as an a priori.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thomas Shey, post: 8193251, member: 7026617"] Well, there's another side to that though; there's no lack of people from either the GM seat or the player seat complaining about games they're in to one degree or another. So I think its legitimate to question how much of that is flaws with the basic process of the games they choose that they're not realizing contribute to this. Where it gets off the rails is when you go in [I]sure[/I] that's what the problem is, rather than just suggesting that there can be reasons for someone to keep playing a game that's part of the source of the problem (this is particularly easy to suggest with something like the current version of D&D which has such a big networking footprint that its easy to see situations where people continue to play it because it What You Play locally in a lot of places). You aren't sure; its [I]speculation[/I], possibly thought through speculation with some general foundation, but you can't just take it as an a priori. [/QUOTE]

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