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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 9154607" data-attributes="member: 82106">I'm not sure what you mean by that. I mean, PbtA (and DW specifically) has basically 4-ish classes of rules:1. Basic constitutive rules - this is the 'onion', conversation, moves (in a general sense), playbooks, and who is responsible for handling which things.2. Moves - these are generally very specific rules, though some of them can be nearly generalized, like Defy Danger. Each move is a specific rule of its own within the constitutive 'here is how you resolve a move' type 1 rule.3. Supporting mechanics - this includes things like equipment and tags, encumbrance, hit points, money, and maybe certain supporting moves that are really more general than specific, like Carouse and such.4. Agenda and Principles - this is the 'what are we doing and how' in the sense of what is the game about and how do apply the rest of the rules in order to get that.Some of these rules are quite narrow and specific (IE certain spells and other class moves). Some are very general (the agenda), rules in the first category generally. I think the more general ones are actually the hardest to get right, and you will note that most PbtA games don't muck a lot with those! DW draws heavily from AW here, BUT it does adjust the agenda somewhat. Likewise DW changes the playbooks and the moves greatly, though certainly there's a good bit of commonality with AW there.The two games have wildly varying supporting mechanics, with DW's gear system and hit points being rather different from AW's, though not as much different as later PbtAs often are.If I want to hack DW or AW, its not THAT hard! Making additional playbooks, while it could be tricky in some sense, is fairly straightforward, no more difficult than writing a class would be for D&D, and probably easier. Creating a whole new PbtA with its own agenda, yeah, that's going to be work, but so is any game design. Its no less profound than writing a whole new d20 game using 5e as a basis. And I don't think DW is any more extensive than other PbtAs that I have encountered. AW (2e at least) is in the same ballpark, and Stonetop has similar heft (though it is still not a finished game). Not sure about other PbtAs, but I get the feeling they're in the same league, at 200-ish pages (but generally a lot less typographically dense than say D&D is).</blockquote>

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