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<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 981990" data-attributes="member: 172">when flankingFirst off, if sneak attack damage were reliable, it would be way too powerful.Second, many creatures with DR, like elementals and undead, also are immune to criticals and ergo sneak attack damage.But are a limited resource.Sure, that's part of the cleric's job, but again, typically second string fighters like clerics, monks, and rogues are expected to contribute to the damage total, and their contribution there is much more strongly affected than a fighter because they are less able to overcome DR via damage alone.Really? Low level undead are DR creatures, lest you forget. Not to mention that elementals and outsiders usually have DR, and great effort has been made to ensure that there are low CR choices there.Which is precisely my point. Before you said it doesn't make much of a difference, and here you admit that it takes more time, uses up more resources (both in terms of magic and the fact that the creature is attacking back during the time you haven't killed it...). That isn't &quot;not much of a difference&quot; to me. That is a pretty telling difference between having the weapon that will bypass the DR and not having it. That's sort of the whole point.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Psion, post: 981990, member: 172"] [i]when flanking[/i] First off, if sneak attack damage were reliable, it would be way too powerful. Second, many creatures with DR, like elementals and undead, also are immune to criticals and ergo sneak attack damage. But are a limited resource. Sure, that's part of the cleric's job, but again, typically second string fighters like clerics, monks, and rogues are expected to contribute to the damage total, and their contribution there is much more strongly affected than a fighter because they are less able to overcome DR via damage alone. Really? Low level undead are DR creatures, lest you forget. Not to mention that elementals and outsiders usually have DR, and great effort has been made to ensure that there are low CR choices there. Which is precisely my point. Before you said it doesn't make much of a difference, and here you admit that it takes more time, uses up more resources (both in terms of magic and the fact that the creature is attacking back during the time you haven't killed it...). That isn't "not much of a difference" to me. That is a pretty telling difference between having the weapon that will bypass the DR and not having it. That's sort of the whole point. [/QUOTE]

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