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<blockquote data-quote="Darrin Drader" data-source="post: 1292599" data-attributes="member: 7394"><p>Alright, now that the books have been out for a while and people have had a good chance to look them over, lets look at the pros vs. the cons.</p><p></p><p>Pros:</p><p>* Virtually every spell has been rewritten to reflect the original intent of what the designers. This includes the elimination of numerous vaguaries that were often exploited by power gamers (important in home games, but huge in organized games).</p><p>* Improvements upon the core classes to make them more enjoyable and worthwhile to play.</p><p>* The skills have been streamlined and slightly reworked to make more logical sense.</p><p>* More feats in the core rules.</p><p>* More prestige classes in the core rules.</p><p>* Now includes the basic epic level rules.</p><p>* Monster entries expanded to include both tougher versions and the information necessary to easily make them player characters.</p><p>* Fully supported by the SRD.</p><p></p><p>Cons:</p><p>* A few errors, such as accidentally omitting that prestige classes don't count towards your XP penalty for multiclassing.</p><p>* Having to buy the books again. Oh, but wait, you don't since its fully supported by the SRD.</p><p></p><p>I'm not trying to flame your point of view, I just don't comprehend it. If re-buying the books is the big hangup, just compare the number of hours of enjoyment you get out of the game to the dollars you spend to see a movie.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Technically Monte is now the owner of a competing business, and he was one of the original designers who didn't get the chance to revise the game the way that he would see it done. Just because it wasn't done the way he would like doesn't mean that it wasn't done well. In fact, when Monte gave his review, he voiced some concerns, but his review was largely favorable. He did say that overall he likes it and that the negative elements of what he said were taken out of context and used for purposes that run contrary to his original intent.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darrin Drader, post: 1292599, member: 7394"] Alright, now that the books have been out for a while and people have had a good chance to look them over, lets look at the pros vs. the cons. Pros: * Virtually every spell has been rewritten to reflect the original intent of what the designers. This includes the elimination of numerous vaguaries that were often exploited by power gamers (important in home games, but huge in organized games). * Improvements upon the core classes to make them more enjoyable and worthwhile to play. * The skills have been streamlined and slightly reworked to make more logical sense. * More feats in the core rules. * More prestige classes in the core rules. * Now includes the basic epic level rules. * Monster entries expanded to include both tougher versions and the information necessary to easily make them player characters. * Fully supported by the SRD. Cons: * A few errors, such as accidentally omitting that prestige classes don't count towards your XP penalty for multiclassing. * Having to buy the books again. Oh, but wait, you don't since its fully supported by the SRD. I'm not trying to flame your point of view, I just don't comprehend it. If re-buying the books is the big hangup, just compare the number of hours of enjoyment you get out of the game to the dollars you spend to see a movie. Technically Monte is now the owner of a competing business, and he was one of the original designers who didn't get the chance to revise the game the way that he would see it done. Just because it wasn't done the way he would like doesn't mean that it wasn't done well. In fact, when Monte gave his review, he voiced some concerns, but his review was largely favorable. He did say that overall he likes it and that the negative elements of what he said were taken out of context and used for purposes that run contrary to his original intent. [/QUOTE]
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