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<blockquote data-quote="MerricB" data-source="post: 1292645" data-attributes="member: 3586"><p>I think he did a good job, but some of the prestige classes and feats (the areas I pay most attention to) were a little pedestrian. Diplomacy bonuses to villains don't really do much for me.</p><p></p><p>The rest of the material was much better, though.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If only they were (a) OGC and (b) not 1:1 scale. I actually really like the mass combat rules, but the 1:1 scale makes them too limiting for really big combats. The Battle of Neraka (from DL14: Dragons of Triumph) had about 2000 troops a side; that's a little clunky with the MHb rules. And with the Cry Havoc miniature rules. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No argument there. The MHb was the best new D&D/d20 book I bought during the year. It also showed some different philosophies on class design that I wish would be used more often.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am as well, and I didn't expect to be.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fewer errors, not less errors, Darrin. If you can count them, you use fewer. Oh, wait a moment... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>What amazes me is how few D&D products WotC are actually producing each year. I greatly appreciate that.</p><p></p><p><strong>Here is the list of D&D Products produced in 2003:</strong> (3 years after 3E was released in 2000):</p><p>Arms and Equipment Guide</p><p>Book of Exalted Deeds</p><p>Complete Warrior</p><p>Draconomicon</p><p>Dungeon Master's Guide 3.5E</p><p>Fiend Folio</p><p>Ghostwalk</p><p>Monster Manual 3.5E</p><p>Player's Handbook 3.5E</p><p>Savage Species</p><p>Dragonlance Campaign Setting</p><p>Races of Faerun</p><p>Unapproachable East</p><p>Underdark</p><p>Miniatures Handbook</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Here is the list of A/D&D products produced in 1992:</strong> (3 years after 2E was released in 1989):</p><p>1064 From the Ashes Campaign Setting, boxed set </p><p>9371 LNQ1 Slayers of Lankhmar</p><p>2126 Arabian Adventures rulebook</p><p>1077 Land of Fate Campaign Setting, boxed set</p><p>2129 MC 13, Monstrous Compendium, Al-Qadim Appendix</p><p>9366 ALQ1 Golden Voyage</p><p>2408 Dragon Kings rulebook</p><p>2405 MC 12 Monstrous Compendium, Dark Sun Appendix</p><p>2406 DSQ1 Road to Urik</p><p>2410 DSQ2 Arcane Shadows</p><p>2412 DSQ3 Asticlian Gambit</p><p>2404 DSR1 Slave Tribes</p><p>2407 DSR2 Dune Trader</p><p>2411 DSR3 Veiled Alliance</p><p>2413 DSR4 Valley of Dust and Fire</p><p>9360 WGR2 Treasures of Greyhawk</p><p>9386 WGR3 Rary the Traitor</p><p>9385 WGQ1 Patriots of Ulek</p><p>1083 Menzoberranzen Campaign Expansion, boxed set</p><p>9351 FR14 The Great Glacier</p><p>9373 FR15 Gold & Glory</p><p>346 Pirates of the Fallen Stars</p><p>9349 FMQ1 City of Gold</p><p>9354 FRQ1 Haunted halls of Eveningstar</p><p>9369 FRQ2 Hordes of Dragonspear</p><p>1074 Tales of the Lance Campaign Setting, boxed set</p><p>9383 DLR3 Unsung Heroes</p><p>9381 DLQ1 Knight's Sword</p><p>9382 DLQ2 Flint's Axe</p><p>2129 MC 14, Monstrous Compendium, Fiend Folio Appendix</p><p>9293 The Magic Encyclopedia, Vol. 1</p><p>2127 PHBR7 The Complete Bard's Handbook</p><p>2131 PHBR8 The Complete Book of Elves</p><p>2128 DMGR4 Monster Mythology</p><p>9323 HR2 Charlemagne's Paladins Campaign Sourcebook</p><p>9376 HR3 Celts Campaign Sourcebook</p><p>9370 HR4 A Mighty Fortress Campaign Sourcebook</p><p>1079 Forbidden Lore Campaign Expanion, boxed set </p><p>9352 RQ1 Night of the Walking Dead </p><p>9364 RQ2 Thoughts of Darkness</p><p>9375 RQ3 From the Shadows</p><p>9348 RR4 Islands of Terror</p><p>9355 RR5 Van Richten's Guide to Ghosts</p><p>1072 The War Captain's Companion, boxed set</p><p>9347 SJQ1 Heart of the Enemy</p><p>9361 SJR5 Rock of Bral</p><p>9374 SJR6 Greyspace</p><p>2130 CGR1 The Complete Spacefarer's Handbook</p><p>9353 GR1 Strongholds</p><p>9365 GR2 Dungeons of Mystery</p><p>9377 GR3 Treasure Maps</p><p>9330 HHQ1 Fighter's Challenge</p><p>9359 HHQ1 Wizard's Challenge</p><p>9380 REF6 Rogues' Gallery</p><p>9342 Entry 1 Quest for the Silver Sword</p><p>9350 Entry 2 Assault on Raven's Ruin</p><p>9357 Entry 3 Thunder Rift</p><p>9387 Entry 4 Sword & Shield</p><p>9363 Entry 5 Character & Monster Assortment</p><p>9378 HWQ1 The Milenian Scepter</p><p>9384 HWR3 The Milenian Empire</p><p>9259 The Jade Hare</p><p>9368 PC4 Creature Crucible: Night Howlers</p><p>1073 The Dragon's Den adventure pack</p><p>1076 The Goblin's Lair adventure pack</p><p>1082 Wrath of the Immortals</p><p>9372 Poor Wizard's Almanac</p><p></p><p></p><p>Notice the difference?</p><p></p><p>Cheers!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MerricB, post: 1292645, member: 3586"] I think he did a good job, but some of the prestige classes and feats (the areas I pay most attention to) were a little pedestrian. Diplomacy bonuses to villains don't really do much for me. The rest of the material was much better, though. If only they were (a) OGC and (b) not 1:1 scale. I actually really like the mass combat rules, but the 1:1 scale makes them too limiting for really big combats. The Battle of Neraka (from DL14: Dragons of Triumph) had about 2000 troops a side; that's a little clunky with the MHb rules. And with the Cry Havoc miniature rules. :( No argument there. The MHb was the best new D&D/d20 book I bought during the year. It also showed some different philosophies on class design that I wish would be used more often. I am as well, and I didn't expect to be. Fewer errors, not less errors, Darrin. If you can count them, you use fewer. Oh, wait a moment... ;) What amazes me is how few D&D products WotC are actually producing each year. I greatly appreciate that. [b]Here is the list of D&D Products produced in 2003:[/b] (3 years after 3E was released in 2000): Arms and Equipment Guide Book of Exalted Deeds Complete Warrior Draconomicon Dungeon Master's Guide 3.5E Fiend Folio Ghostwalk Monster Manual 3.5E Player's Handbook 3.5E Savage Species Dragonlance Campaign Setting Races of Faerun Unapproachable East Underdark Miniatures Handbook [b]Here is the list of A/D&D products produced in 1992:[/b] (3 years after 2E was released in 1989): 1064 From the Ashes Campaign Setting, boxed set 9371 LNQ1 Slayers of Lankhmar 2126 Arabian Adventures rulebook 1077 Land of Fate Campaign Setting, boxed set 2129 MC 13, Monstrous Compendium, Al-Qadim Appendix 9366 ALQ1 Golden Voyage 2408 Dragon Kings rulebook 2405 MC 12 Monstrous Compendium, Dark Sun Appendix 2406 DSQ1 Road to Urik 2410 DSQ2 Arcane Shadows 2412 DSQ3 Asticlian Gambit 2404 DSR1 Slave Tribes 2407 DSR2 Dune Trader 2411 DSR3 Veiled Alliance 2413 DSR4 Valley of Dust and Fire 9360 WGR2 Treasures of Greyhawk 9386 WGR3 Rary the Traitor 9385 WGQ1 Patriots of Ulek 1083 Menzoberranzen Campaign Expansion, boxed set 9351 FR14 The Great Glacier 9373 FR15 Gold & Glory 346 Pirates of the Fallen Stars 9349 FMQ1 City of Gold 9354 FRQ1 Haunted halls of Eveningstar 9369 FRQ2 Hordes of Dragonspear 1074 Tales of the Lance Campaign Setting, boxed set 9383 DLR3 Unsung Heroes 9381 DLQ1 Knight's Sword 9382 DLQ2 Flint's Axe 2129 MC 14, Monstrous Compendium, Fiend Folio Appendix 9293 The Magic Encyclopedia, Vol. 1 2127 PHBR7 The Complete Bard's Handbook 2131 PHBR8 The Complete Book of Elves 2128 DMGR4 Monster Mythology 9323 HR2 Charlemagne's Paladins Campaign Sourcebook 9376 HR3 Celts Campaign Sourcebook 9370 HR4 A Mighty Fortress Campaign Sourcebook 1079 Forbidden Lore Campaign Expanion, boxed set 9352 RQ1 Night of the Walking Dead 9364 RQ2 Thoughts of Darkness 9375 RQ3 From the Shadows 9348 RR4 Islands of Terror 9355 RR5 Van Richten's Guide to Ghosts 1072 The War Captain's Companion, boxed set 9347 SJQ1 Heart of the Enemy 9361 SJR5 Rock of Bral 9374 SJR6 Greyspace 2130 CGR1 The Complete Spacefarer's Handbook 9353 GR1 Strongholds 9365 GR2 Dungeons of Mystery 9377 GR3 Treasure Maps 9330 HHQ1 Fighter's Challenge 9359 HHQ1 Wizard's Challenge 9380 REF6 Rogues' Gallery 9342 Entry 1 Quest for the Silver Sword 9350 Entry 2 Assault on Raven's Ruin 9357 Entry 3 Thunder Rift 9387 Entry 4 Sword & Shield 9363 Entry 5 Character & Monster Assortment 9378 HWQ1 The Milenian Scepter 9384 HWR3 The Milenian Empire 9259 The Jade Hare 9368 PC4 Creature Crucible: Night Howlers 1073 The Dragon's Den adventure pack 1076 The Goblin's Lair adventure pack 1082 Wrath of the Immortals 9372 Poor Wizard's Almanac Notice the difference? Cheers! [/QUOTE]
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