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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 1292680" data-attributes="member: 2477">This doesn't apply to everyone ofc, but most of the people I've met that hate 3.5 so much, decided they'd hate it before the books came out. "Oh, I knew what it would be"They decided that it was all house rules in an attempt for WotC to charge the customers again and nothing can disuade that opinion.Like I said, it's not everyone by far, but a lot of the people argue about rules that don't even affect their game.And if I hear one more time that Miniatures are Required, I'll scream!(heck, I'll just scream now to get it out of the way...)There's also an element of the turnover rate with Wizards, so it's hard to judge how "in" Monte is at this point, information wise. He recounts the tale of an early meeting, but can he say what happened later?Granted, he's much more in the loop than me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />On the topic of the thread:Ravenloft: I was steadily loosing interest in the products anyway, but the new Players Guide is almost a direct reprint of the original campaign guide. "updated to 3.5" in this instance really didn't have enough changes. Kind of killed the series for me for good I think.(well, that and the fact that RL for me was driven by adventures, and without such, I'm not buying rulebooks of bad mechanics.)</blockquote>

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