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<blockquote data-quote="Darrin Drader" data-source="post: 1293780" data-attributes="member: 7394"><p>Excuse me? Ignorance?!?!?!</p><p></p><p>I think this comes down to a matter of personal opinion, and if anyone's opinion here is offensive its that of someone who thinks its better to flood the market with a bunch of D&D crap rather than focus on the core products with a high production value and let the 3rd party publishers release the marginally interesting stuff. Of the list you brought up, only Menzoberranzen, "From the Ashes," and "Strongholds" has any promise of standing the test of time and of those, really, only Menzoberranzan and Strongholds are truly worthwhile. Maztica has no place on my game shelf and I don't know of anyone who even bothered with it. Ravenloft and Darksun were second tier worlds at best, and of the two, only Darksun was even mildly interesting, in my ever so humble and obviously ignorant opinion (nevermind the fact that I've actually owned all the settings in question since their original release as well as a fair number of products on the list). </p><p></p><p>In fact, the majority of DMs actually run their own worlds, so you can promote Darksun, Maztica, and Ravenloft all you want, but the fact is that there are very good reasons that WotC isn't making books in those lines or similar ones anymore. The main thing thats going to be the most utility are products that give players more options for character customization. That's what 3rd edition is about. How many good DMs can't take a basic setting book and produce their own material to fill in the necessary blanks? Sure, it won't be nicely bound and go on for 100 pages more than is necesary, but it will fill the need they have at the time.</p><p></p><p>If you want more books, go buy D20 stuff. Midnight stands head and shoulders above Maztica and Darksun. Go buy the 3rd edition Ravenloft stuff produced by Sword and Sorcery Studios. They're still making it, so it isn't like its not available. I guarantee you that my statement was not based on ignorance. Because of the OGL you have more choices now that you had then, and many of the campaign setting material from these third party publishers is more innovative than it was back in the early '90s anyway. If you haven't checked it out then I recommend doing so before crying ignorance. If you have and you've decided not to like it, then you're one of those people still hung up on the fact that the logo on the cover is D20 rather than D&D. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p></p><p>Oh yeah, welcome to my ignore list.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darrin Drader, post: 1293780, member: 7394"] Excuse me? Ignorance?!?!?! I think this comes down to a matter of personal opinion, and if anyone's opinion here is offensive its that of someone who thinks its better to flood the market with a bunch of D&D crap rather than focus on the core products with a high production value and let the 3rd party publishers release the marginally interesting stuff. Of the list you brought up, only Menzoberranzen, "From the Ashes," and "Strongholds" has any promise of standing the test of time and of those, really, only Menzoberranzan and Strongholds are truly worthwhile. Maztica has no place on my game shelf and I don't know of anyone who even bothered with it. Ravenloft and Darksun were second tier worlds at best, and of the two, only Darksun was even mildly interesting, in my ever so humble and obviously ignorant opinion (nevermind the fact that I've actually owned all the settings in question since their original release as well as a fair number of products on the list). In fact, the majority of DMs actually run their own worlds, so you can promote Darksun, Maztica, and Ravenloft all you want, but the fact is that there are very good reasons that WotC isn't making books in those lines or similar ones anymore. The main thing thats going to be the most utility are products that give players more options for character customization. That's what 3rd edition is about. How many good DMs can't take a basic setting book and produce their own material to fill in the necessary blanks? Sure, it won't be nicely bound and go on for 100 pages more than is necesary, but it will fill the need they have at the time. If you want more books, go buy D20 stuff. Midnight stands head and shoulders above Maztica and Darksun. Go buy the 3rd edition Ravenloft stuff produced by Sword and Sorcery Studios. They're still making it, so it isn't like its not available. I guarantee you that my statement was not based on ignorance. Because of the OGL you have more choices now that you had then, and many of the campaign setting material from these third party publishers is more innovative than it was back in the early '90s anyway. If you haven't checked it out then I recommend doing so before crying ignorance. If you have and you've decided not to like it, then you're one of those people still hung up on the fact that the logo on the cover is D20 rather than D&D. :rolleyes: Oh yeah, welcome to my ignore list. [/QUOTE]
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