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<blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 1294297" data-attributes="member: 10177"><p>Well Darrin,</p><p></p><p>You and I appear to have different views of the word targeted and whether or not the over-all rules remained intact. In later announcements they also assured us that our 3.0 books would be fully compatible with 3.5. I don't see that either.</p><p></p><p>Just to be clear, I am not picking on Darrin. I respect his opinion as well as his work. I am in no way attempting to "pick on him". Just to disagree with some of his opinions/views, just like he does with mine. We are adults and can obviously disagree with each other in a friendly manner.</p><p></p><p>My bottom line beef, can you play 3.5 with 3.0 books? No. So they are in no way compatible. All the needless spell and skill name changes put aside, there is no comaptibility other than they both use the d20 mechanic. That is apparently how WOTC wants to define compatible, targeted, and rules-intact changes, but it isn't my definition. So I have exercised my right to not buy product put out by a company I consider to be a liar.</p><p></p><p>Darrin,</p><p></p><p>You consider those to be truthful statements, fine. You also have professional reasons to have 3.5 rules. I don't. On either count. I don't participate in Cons or other "official" games. I have absolutely no reason to buy anything from WOTC. If I ever do I will wait until I can buy it second hand.</p><p></p><p>Maybe 4th editon will change my opinion about WOTC. Maybe that edition will truly be needed. Maybe all the name changes and slight modifications of skills, feats, and spells will actually be needed to better the game. Maybe the miniatures rules will be necessary to improve the game. Maybe all the other rules modifications and total changes will make for a better game. </p><p></p><p>3.5 is not a revision, it is a total rewrite. How do I define this as being the case? Because I cannot sit down at a game where everyone else is using 3.5 and i am using 3.0 and know what is going on without reading their version of so many skills, spells, feats, and class progression rules. That is not compatible. Nor is it targeted when you have an easier time finding changes then you do finding what stayed the same. That is wide spread changes. Changes, not revisions. They are very different words with very different meanings.</p><p></p><p>This is also my opinion. My opinion effects no one. My lack of purchasing WOTC product isn't even a blip on their radar. I am cool with not buying 3.5. I am also cool with everyone who does. It is their money and their freedom of choice.</p><p></p><p>Besides, by not buying WOTC product I will have plenty of money buying all the Necromancer product I want as well as the Ravenloft material and any other publisher material I find I like. So I am happy, just like many of you are happy to buy 3.5. Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Treebore, post: 1294297, member: 10177"] Well Darrin, You and I appear to have different views of the word targeted and whether or not the over-all rules remained intact. In later announcements they also assured us that our 3.0 books would be fully compatible with 3.5. I don't see that either. Just to be clear, I am not picking on Darrin. I respect his opinion as well as his work. I am in no way attempting to "pick on him". Just to disagree with some of his opinions/views, just like he does with mine. We are adults and can obviously disagree with each other in a friendly manner. My bottom line beef, can you play 3.5 with 3.0 books? No. So they are in no way compatible. All the needless spell and skill name changes put aside, there is no comaptibility other than they both use the d20 mechanic. That is apparently how WOTC wants to define compatible, targeted, and rules-intact changes, but it isn't my definition. So I have exercised my right to not buy product put out by a company I consider to be a liar. Darrin, You consider those to be truthful statements, fine. You also have professional reasons to have 3.5 rules. I don't. On either count. I don't participate in Cons or other "official" games. I have absolutely no reason to buy anything from WOTC. If I ever do I will wait until I can buy it second hand. Maybe 4th editon will change my opinion about WOTC. Maybe that edition will truly be needed. Maybe all the name changes and slight modifications of skills, feats, and spells will actually be needed to better the game. Maybe the miniatures rules will be necessary to improve the game. Maybe all the other rules modifications and total changes will make for a better game. 3.5 is not a revision, it is a total rewrite. How do I define this as being the case? Because I cannot sit down at a game where everyone else is using 3.5 and i am using 3.0 and know what is going on without reading their version of so many skills, spells, feats, and class progression rules. That is not compatible. Nor is it targeted when you have an easier time finding changes then you do finding what stayed the same. That is wide spread changes. Changes, not revisions. They are very different words with very different meanings. This is also my opinion. My opinion effects no one. My lack of purchasing WOTC product isn't even a blip on their radar. I am cool with not buying 3.5. I am also cool with everyone who does. It is their money and their freedom of choice. Besides, by not buying WOTC product I will have plenty of money buying all the Necromancer product I want as well as the Ravenloft material and any other publisher material I find I like. So I am happy, just like many of you are happy to buy 3.5. Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing. [/QUOTE]
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