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<blockquote data-quote="thompsja" data-source="post: 4500538" data-attributes="member: 39371"><p>Actually, it is even worse than that. Here's one our wizard uses on his guards:</p><p></p><p>Pact of the Indomintable Warrior</p><p>Spellcraft DC: 10</p><p>Casting Time: 11 minutes</p><p>Components: V,S</p><p>Range: 300'</p><p>Target: 20' radius</p><p>Duration: 600 hours (25 days)</p><p>Saving Throw: Will negates (Harmless)</p><p>Spell Resistance: Yes (harmless)</p><p>To Develop: 90,000 gp, 3600XP. Seeds: Fortify (DC 17) and Fortify (DC 17). Factors: +19 additional bonus to STR (+38 DC), +19 additional Bonus to CON (+38), Increase duration to 30x (+58), Change target to Area (+10), Change area to 20' radius(+2). Mitigating Factors: increase casting time by 10 minutes (-20 DC), 30 additional casters each contributing a 3rd level spell slot (-150 DC).</p><p>This spell increases the STR and CON of everyone inside a target circle by +20.</p><p></p><p></p><p>We could easily change this to just be INT, and then all of his casters stand in the circle. Bingo, everyone has 55+ INT. </p><p></p><p>With the power of Epic spells, particularly permanent effects, I started working on a prestige class for casters. You'd submit to a Compel spell at first level, give up a 3rd level slot every day. As you progressed in the class, you'd get inherent stat raises for your character. You'd submit so that the Epic Wizard could see through your eyes. He could grant you a favor, such as casting a Maximized Disintegrate on your target. In addition, wizards would get another spell per level, but pay 10% of their gained wealth, and have privileges to use the library. I never got finished with it, but the class is based around being a living spell battery, and the Epic Wizard helping to protect you - because he needs your spell slots. </p><p></p><p>Epic Wizards will always build a Fortify Con effect, which will give them many more hit points. All of their attack spells will have take damage to the maximal extent possible. Until characters reach 27th level, they can't cast more than two epic spells per day. A 25th level character could create a spell that does 50d6 damage. This character would have 25 * (2.5) base dice, plus 25 * 30 (for using a +60 CON spell like the +60 INT spell above) This works out to over 800 hit points. Even maxing out damage on both epic spells, he will only take 600 damage (an extremely unlikely event).</p><p></p><p>Epic spells are like nuclear weapons. Those that have them are simply on a different power level than people who don't. With ritualists, the ability to create very powerful effects becomes absurdly easy. I've got in mind a lich who has killed several spell casters, and kept them around as ghosts. He's got them bound by compel to give him a spell slot whenever he wants it, so his quickened attack spells can become rituals... the mind boggles at what is possible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thompsja, post: 4500538, member: 39371"] Actually, it is even worse than that. Here's one our wizard uses on his guards: Pact of the Indomintable Warrior Spellcraft DC: 10 Casting Time: 11 minutes Components: V,S Range: 300' Target: 20' radius Duration: 600 hours (25 days) Saving Throw: Will negates (Harmless) Spell Resistance: Yes (harmless) To Develop: 90,000 gp, 3600XP. Seeds: Fortify (DC 17) and Fortify (DC 17). Factors: +19 additional bonus to STR (+38 DC), +19 additional Bonus to CON (+38), Increase duration to 30x (+58), Change target to Area (+10), Change area to 20' radius(+2). Mitigating Factors: increase casting time by 10 minutes (-20 DC), 30 additional casters each contributing a 3rd level spell slot (-150 DC). This spell increases the STR and CON of everyone inside a target circle by +20. We could easily change this to just be INT, and then all of his casters stand in the circle. Bingo, everyone has 55+ INT. With the power of Epic spells, particularly permanent effects, I started working on a prestige class for casters. You'd submit to a Compel spell at first level, give up a 3rd level slot every day. As you progressed in the class, you'd get inherent stat raises for your character. You'd submit so that the Epic Wizard could see through your eyes. He could grant you a favor, such as casting a Maximized Disintegrate on your target. In addition, wizards would get another spell per level, but pay 10% of their gained wealth, and have privileges to use the library. I never got finished with it, but the class is based around being a living spell battery, and the Epic Wizard helping to protect you - because he needs your spell slots. Epic Wizards will always build a Fortify Con effect, which will give them many more hit points. All of their attack spells will have take damage to the maximal extent possible. Until characters reach 27th level, they can't cast more than two epic spells per day. A 25th level character could create a spell that does 50d6 damage. This character would have 25 * (2.5) base dice, plus 25 * 30 (for using a +60 CON spell like the +60 INT spell above) This works out to over 800 hit points. Even maxing out damage on both epic spells, he will only take 600 damage (an extremely unlikely event). Epic spells are like nuclear weapons. Those that have them are simply on a different power level than people who don't. With ritualists, the ability to create very powerful effects becomes absurdly easy. I've got in mind a lich who has killed several spell casters, and kept them around as ghosts. He's got them bound by compel to give him a spell slot whenever he wants it, so his quickened attack spells can become rituals... the mind boggles at what is possible. [/QUOTE]
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