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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 4659807" data-attributes="member: 2525">I wonder if people who find the wizard to be less effective are playing in groups where the non-controllers are not coordinating tactics well with the wizard.For example, the wizard player typically knows they should not block a clear path to move to the foes for the defenders.&nbsp; But, do the defenders and melee strikers in these games know to not stagger themselves such that someone would get caught in an area attack?In our games, all the players know that the defenders form a straight front line, the melee strikers move in but move back out again right away (or are ranged strikers), the leaders stay behind the front line to heal, and the controllers nuke area attacks in a square in front of the defender's front line.&nbsp; But that doesn't work if melee strikers or defenders are leaving themselves outside the front line, in the line of fire of an area attack that they should be expecting.In other words, are melee strikers and defenders not standing clear of the expected grenade, and instead employing tactics that makes tossing a grenade either less effective or not effective at all?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 4659807, member: 2525"] I wonder if people who find the wizard to be less effective are playing in groups where the non-controllers are not coordinating tactics well with the wizard. For example, the wizard player typically knows they should not block a clear path to move to the foes for the defenders. But, do the defenders and melee strikers in these games know to not stagger themselves such that someone would get caught in an area attack? In our games, all the players know that the defenders form a straight front line, the melee strikers move in but move back out again right away (or are ranged strikers), the leaders stay behind the front line to heal, and the controllers nuke area attacks in a square in front of the defender's front line. But that doesn't work if melee strikers or defenders are leaving themselves outside the front line, in the line of fire of an area attack that they should be expecting. In other words, are melee strikers and defenders not standing clear of the expected grenade, and instead employing tactics that makes tossing a grenade either less effective or not effective at all? [/QUOTE]

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