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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1091101" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>Personally I think that this merely speaks to needing a hard bound volume collecting the classbooks into a single revised and erattaed book. I would be glad to lay down money to have S&F, DotF, T&B, S&S and MotW in one volume, with necessary corrections to some egregious mistakes and then revised for 3.5.</p><p></p><p>Personally, for my money, Defenders of the Faith had far more problems with it than Sword & Fist did, which is not really a race one wants to win. As Homer Simpson points out, <em>"No one wins a butter eating contest."</em></p><p></p><p>And I keep hearing how the HBGB was terrible because people who've been playing for 20+ years found it redundant, with no crunchy bits, and featuring information that could be gleaned from various websites and shareware programs. Which, I reiterate, misses the point. It could be lots better, I agree. But it wasn't written for someone who hangs out at ENWorld. It was written for my 14-year old cousin who doesn't go on the 'net, but plays on his PS2. It was written for that guy who pops on over to the Barnes & Nobles and wants to try out this D&D he's heard so much about. It's for the girlfriend at college who wants to try out the game that her boyfriend has been playing, but is having trouble with this 'character creation' business, and trying to figure out what 'role-playing' is, other than a tool psychologists use.</p><p></p><p>The same applies for Enemies&Allies. Yes, I could get NPCs from the Rogues Gallery forum, or from a dozen other locations...but for many DMs, this place may as well not exist. But a tool from WotC with a premade set of opponents or NPCs is a Good Thing (tm). Busy DMs can find this a handy tool to have. The Book of Challenges even more so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 1091101, member: 151"] Personally I think that this merely speaks to needing a hard bound volume collecting the classbooks into a single revised and erattaed book. I would be glad to lay down money to have S&F, DotF, T&B, S&S and MotW in one volume, with necessary corrections to some egregious mistakes and then revised for 3.5. Personally, for my money, Defenders of the Faith had far more problems with it than Sword & Fist did, which is not really a race one wants to win. As Homer Simpson points out, [i]"No one wins a butter eating contest."[/i] And I keep hearing how the HBGB was terrible because people who've been playing for 20+ years found it redundant, with no crunchy bits, and featuring information that could be gleaned from various websites and shareware programs. Which, I reiterate, misses the point. It could be lots better, I agree. But it wasn't written for someone who hangs out at ENWorld. It was written for my 14-year old cousin who doesn't go on the 'net, but plays on his PS2. It was written for that guy who pops on over to the Barnes & Nobles and wants to try out this D&D he's heard so much about. It's for the girlfriend at college who wants to try out the game that her boyfriend has been playing, but is having trouble with this 'character creation' business, and trying to figure out what 'role-playing' is, other than a tool psychologists use. The same applies for Enemies&Allies. Yes, I could get NPCs from the Rogues Gallery forum, or from a dozen other locations...but for many DMs, this place may as well not exist. But a tool from WotC with a premade set of opponents or NPCs is a Good Thing (tm). Busy DMs can find this a handy tool to have. The Book of Challenges even more so. [/QUOTE]
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