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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8023040" data-attributes="member: 18">These are outstandingly bad arguments. It's almost impressive.The whole &quot;u can do stealth&quot; thing is like a ridiculous claim people who've never actually played D&amp;D but read the rulebooks would make, because it's obviously not a particularly good idea in practice due to the extremely high failure chance (unless your DM is doing some softball stuff). Monks at this level are roundly inferior to Fighters. Less damage, less AC, less HP. Indeed they're inferior to most classes.Warlocks are just bad at L1. Any character can and should have an &quot;awesome story&quot;. 1d10 damage is 5.5 average. That's the same as a shortbow or a throwing axe with 16 DEX. A second-rate weapon. At least you have 120' range.Rangers are roundly inferior to Fighters. That's all they are at L1 - really bad Fighters. And a DEX Fighter will be a better scout than them too if you're really pushing that (as well as a noticeably better combatant).Of these three only Warlocks really ever become a super-solid class, too. Rangers are largely fixed by the Class Feature Variants at least. Monks peak at &quot;kinda ok maybe&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8023040, member: 18"] These are outstandingly bad arguments. It's almost impressive. The whole "u can do stealth" thing is like a ridiculous claim people who've never actually played D&D but read the rulebooks would make, because it's obviously not a particularly good idea in practice due to the extremely high failure chance (unless your DM is doing some softball stuff). Monks at this level are roundly inferior to Fighters. Less damage, less AC, less HP. Indeed they're inferior to most classes. Warlocks are just bad at L1. Any character can and should have an "awesome story". 1d10 damage is 5.5 average. That's the same as a shortbow or a throwing axe with 16 DEX. A second-rate weapon. At least you have 120' range. Rangers are roundly inferior to Fighters. That's all they are at L1 - really bad Fighters. And a DEX Fighter will be a better scout than them too if you're really pushing that (as well as a noticeably better combatant). Of these three only Warlocks really ever become a super-solid class, too. Rangers are largely fixed by the Class Feature Variants at least. Monks peak at "kinda ok maybe". [/QUOTE]

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