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<blockquote data-quote="Todd Roybark" data-source="post: 8024480" data-attributes="member: 6920677">I have had horrible luck with Toll the Dead on my cleric character.&nbsp; The DM keeps making the Saving Throw, even with creatures with negative Wisdom modifiers.I have had the Cantrip work a measly 8%......it has worked just 4 times, and the failure to success ratio has not been close to evening out.I started with a 17 Wisdom, now a 18.&nbsp; From a Role Play perspective I think my character would just give up on it.I have cantrip envy for any one of the Attack Role Cantrips the Wizard has.<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🧙🏻" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f9d9-1f3fb.png" title="Mage: light skin tone&nbsp; &nbsp; :mage_tone1:" data-shortname=":mage_tone1:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />Also, Way of the Long Death is a very good subclass. I’ve seen a Wizard PC sanction the slaying of their familiar in a tough jam, so the Monk can get Temp HP.Hour of Reaping is a solid at will ability and works well with Booming Blade or Conquest Paladin.Mastery of Death is a clutch power.&nbsp; Sometimes too clutch.&nbsp; The player of the death monk plays MC Hammer’s music for “Can’t Touch This” but overdubbed himself singing “Can’t Kill Me” in a funny voice.....sigh playing with comedians can be exhausting <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="😉" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" title="Winking face&nbsp; &nbsp; :wink:" data-shortname=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /> ( but super funny).He does this everytime the ability is used.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Todd Roybark, post: 8024480, member: 6920677"] I have had [I]horrible[/I] luck with Toll the Dead on my cleric character. The DM keeps making the Saving Throw, even with creatures with negative Wisdom modifiers. I have had the Cantrip work a measly 8%......it has worked just 4 times, and the failure to success ratio has not been close to evening out. I started with a 17 Wisdom, now a 18. From a Role Play perspective I think my character would just give up on it. I have cantrip envy for any one of the Attack Role Cantrips the Wizard has.🧙🏻 Also, Way of the Long Death is a [I]very[/I] good subclass. I’ve seen a Wizard PC sanction the slaying of their familiar in a tough jam, so the Monk can get Temp HP. Hour of Reaping is a solid at will ability and works well with Booming Blade or Conquest Paladin. Mastery of Death is a clutch power. Sometimes too clutch. The player of the death monk plays MC Hammer’s music for “Can’t Touch This” but overdubbed himself singing “Can’t Kill Me” in a funny voice.....sigh playing with comedians can be exhausting 😉 ( but super funny). He does this everytime the ability is used. [/QUOTE]

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