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<blockquote data-quote="ClaytonCross" data-source="post: 8026673" data-attributes="member: 6880599">They are both in the running for sure. I lean to warlock being worse because a ranger can still shoot arrows but needs GM to make the level 1 abilities useful but the warlock only has 2 cantrips and one spell slot unless your GM is providing a number of short rests. If your a caster your the weakest caster in the game, if you wanted to go martial you have crap for armor, no shield, and no proficiency in the weapons you want until level 3 pact of the blade unless you take Hexblade as your subclass if thats allowed in your campaign, you can't tank, you can't heal unless your an asimar celestial patron, and even if your a human variant with feat you can't scout well until level 2 with devils sight. Really, Warlock is waiting for level 3 to show up and do anything while the ranger can still at least track and fight.That's my take on it any way.Monk gets a bad rap, but my wife played one and the off hand attack meant at the very least she was out damaging everyone else melee with a sword hit and a punch more so versus level 1 CR1/8 enemies or lower she could one shot easily killing two per round. She had a AC15 out the gate and actual carried her group through her first mission.Sorcerers get 4 starting cantrips and 2 first level spells which makes them one of the strongest first level casters for the sake of having the right cantrip for the job at level 1 and enough spell slots to do something interesting. Not sure why people are rating them low.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ClaytonCross, post: 8026673, member: 6880599"] They are both in the running for sure. I lean to warlock being worse because a ranger can still shoot arrows but needs GM to make the level 1 abilities useful but the warlock only has 2 cantrips and one spell slot unless your GM is providing a number of short rests. If your a caster your the weakest caster in the game, if you wanted to go martial you have crap for armor, no shield, and no proficiency in the weapons you want until level 3 pact of the blade unless you take Hexblade as your subclass if thats allowed in your campaign, you can't tank, you can't heal unless your an asimar celestial patron, and even if your a human variant with feat you can't scout well until level 2 with devils sight. Really, Warlock is waiting for level 3 to show up and do anything while the ranger can still at least track and fight. That's my take on it any way. Monk gets a bad rap, but my wife played one and the off hand attack meant at the very least she was out damaging everyone else melee with a sword hit and a punch more so versus level 1 CR1/8 enemies or lower she could one shot easily killing two per round. She had a AC15 out the gate and actual carried her group through her first mission. Sorcerers get 4 starting cantrips and 2 first level spells which makes them one of the strongest first level casters for the sake of having the right cantrip for the job at level 1 and enough spell slots to do something interesting. Not sure why people are rating them low. [/QUOTE]

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