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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8027664" data-attributes="member: 6987520">There is no rule that says &quot;Rage&quot; doesn't have visual effect, either, so that is a moot argument.And the goblins can know whatever the DM decides they know (maybe this tribe has encountered raging barbarians before and are wary), just as the characters know what they know. By using the knowledge the characters know the players are metagaming, after all, how do the players determine it? By asking the DM and maybe making an Intelligence check. But why would they want to make one? Because they players know something and want to see if their characters know it. In the same light, the DM could have the goblins make an Intelligence or Wisdom check to see if the goblins know/ understand about &quot;rage&quot;.Finally, who decides what a &quot;character knows&quot;? Proficiency is not required to make ability checks for Intelligence or Wisdom or whatever.But you should know that a lot of players aren't going to consider a DM &quot;bad&quot; for having goblins cower and such when encountering a raging barbarian.At any rate, we aren't going to agree on this and I don't want to threadjack this future.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8027664, member: 6987520"] There is no rule that says "Rage" doesn't have visual effect, either, so that is a moot argument. And the goblins can know whatever the DM decides they know (maybe this tribe has encountered raging barbarians before and are wary), just as the characters know what they know. By using the knowledge the characters know the players are metagaming, after all, how do the players determine it? By asking the DM and maybe making an Intelligence check. But why would they want to make one? Because they players know something and want to see if their characters know it. In the same light, the DM could have the goblins make an Intelligence or Wisdom check to see if the goblins know/ understand about "rage". Finally, who decides what a "character knows"? Proficiency is not required to make ability checks for Intelligence or Wisdom or whatever. But you should know that a lot of players aren't going to consider a DM "bad" for having goblins cower and such when encountering a raging barbarian. At any rate, we aren't going to agree on this and I don't want to threadjack this future. [/QUOTE]

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