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<blockquote data-quote="pr1" data-source="post: 4294140" data-attributes="member: 69240">I totally disagree.&nbsp; I think the far more common problem is characters don't die enough for stupid things that they do.The scenario you talked about?&nbsp; Well, not to get too personal, but it's tricky.&nbsp; As you explained it, I would have let the two die.&nbsp; Big whoop.&nbsp; Sometimes you make mistakes, and there are consequences to others for your actions.&nbsp; I might question why there was a guy who could so easily kill party members from bed if stealth wasn't used to sneak up on him, but there's a place for that sort of thing, too.A big problem I see is that characters take so long to write and are so tediously fleshed out (or the attempt is made to do so, at least), that you really feel like you're doing something bad to the players in letting their characters get killed.&nbsp; It's D&amp;D.&nbsp; Every game I ever had fun in, character death was a real threat, and there wasn't some high &amp; mighty story or multi-step module to have its solvency threatened because of it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pr1, post: 4294140, member: 69240"] I totally disagree. I think the far more common problem is characters don't die enough for stupid things that they do. The scenario you talked about? Well, not to get too personal, but it's tricky. As you explained it, I would have let the two die. Big whoop. Sometimes you make mistakes, and there are consequences to others for your actions. I might question why there was a guy who could so easily kill party members from bed if stealth wasn't used to sneak up on him, but there's a place for that sort of thing, too. A big problem I see is that characters take so long to write and are so tediously fleshed out (or the attempt is made to do so, at least), that you really feel like you're doing something bad to the players in letting their characters get killed. It's D&D. Every game I ever had fun in, character death was a real threat, and there wasn't some high & mighty story or multi-step module to have its solvency threatened because of it. [/QUOTE]

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