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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 8551517" data-attributes="member: 7026617">This is going to be a little devil's advocacy, and I want to make it clear I don't intrinsically consider this a reason to enforce hostile environments about race and gender.But its not necessarily comparing like to like when looking at things that define a social matrix and things that define a physical reality.  The former, along with psychological realism, can be required for some people to engage with a setting and actually be able to connect to it, in a way that magic, monsters and non-human intelligences don't.Its not actually that surprising that people will find things about how people interact more jarring than the fact that the setting has people who can throw fireballs.  Yes, it still requires ignoring some things (with most incarnations of D&D and its offshoots, the fact you still see conventional castles and walled cities doesn't make too much sense without a lot more unpacking), but it operates on a different level.</blockquote>