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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 1790206" data-attributes="member: 707">I think your analysis is spot-on, Carpe DM.Absolutely.  I really don't understand why the designers chose to give paladins (and rangers) a 1/2 caster level at all.  The fact that they are already limited to 4th-level spells, which they receive far later than an equivalent-level cleric or druid, ensures that they'll be nothing like a true spellcaster.  But at least with a full caster level, their 4th-level spells would be 4th-level spells.  As things stand, a paladin or ranger's 4th-level spells simply aren't as powerful as 4th-level spells.  The nerfed CL makes them more equivalent to 3rd or 2nd-level spells.I sent my DM an email asking him if he'd consider the house rule.  Perhaps I should send him a link to this thread as well. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />That's an interesting point I hadn't considered.  Granted, I've been playing 3.x since it came out and not once have I ever seen Dispel Magic used against an item, so I think this use is, to put it mildly, rare.  But it's something to keep in mind.It's true that he's not primarily a spellcaster, but he most certainly has spells.  The fact that he's mainly a warrior is embodied in the fact that he only gets four levels of spells.  I see no reason why the four spell levels he gets need also be nearly useless for most practical purposes.Your advice is well taken, though.  The next time I start playing a new campaign and want to play a paladin, I'll certainly bring up the UA rules with the DM.  For the time being, though, I'm playing in a game that is mostly core.  I'm hoping my DM will consider adjusting the caster level as per the recommendation here in this thread, but I'm not going to be able to rewrite the PC, nor would I want to. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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