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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dragonwriter" data-source="post: 5301812" data-attributes="member: 54988">There's a reason they sound like each other... They are each other. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />3.5 PHB/SRD also says: A spell-like ability has no verbal, somatic, or material component, nor does it require a focus or have an XP cost.<a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#specialAbilities" target="_blank">3.5 SRD Special Abilities</a><a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic#TOC-Special-Abilities" target="_blank">Pathfinder SRD Special Abilities</a> That's all well and good by me. Extraordinary abilities are non-magical, anyway, like Improved Grab for a Dire Ape or Trip for a Wolf. I feel the need to point out any Dragon's Breath Weapon. All are Su, but the only action is breathing, and none can be dispelled. Antimagic Field negates them, but that is rather high-power. Then would the SLA take Arcane Spell Failure chance? Would an SLA-user have to use material components? The rules say they have no components, so why can't they just have no components (says this in PF and 3.5)? I can see justification in getting AoO'd because you have to focus on it, like on a spell. Your focus is elsewhere, your opponents take a swing at you while you are open. I don't mind that. Supernatural abilities don't face that because they don't take focus, they are second nature.I mean, it was balanced enough in 3.5 that they left it as such in PF. Why can't we just leave it as is, as it doesn't need to be HR'd. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, as the saying goes. Components, also, are only backed up by the Vancian casting system, and remain largely a flavor point. I have never bothered with typing or saying some kind of incantation in play, and I doubt I ever will. And the Metamagic feats Still/Silent Spell negate the need for them anyway. And neither of those feats say they negate any AoO.As I see it, the AoO is for being focused on something other than the guy standing in front of you, waving a sword at you. If you can make the Concentration check, you keep your focus, don't get smacked, and keep the spell. If you get smacked or are too focused on dodging the guy, you lose the spell/SLA.I'm going to say it again: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Please, HM.</blockquote>

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