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WotC 4E D&D bloat (was Forked Thread: Pathfinder (PFRPG) bloat)
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<blockquote data-quote="filthgrinder" data-source="post: 4841750" data-attributes="member: 64984"><p>Well, I think one thing about WotC 4E "bloat" is that it's organized bloat. In 3E, you could have a player come and sit down at your table and all of a sudden their cleric casts something ridiculous that happens to be in some random Underdark source book. In 4E, you know his powers are going to be from a player's book, or Divine Power. He's not going to be pulling out a level 5 daily from the Dragonomicon II or something.</p><p></p><p>That being said, you also have an expectation of power as well. If he pulls out an at-will from a book (or the minis), you have an idea of how power it'll be. It'll probably do 1[W] + a buff or move effect. It's not going to be something completely ridiculous. Also, with the compendium and character builder, you can at least skim through everything ahead of time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="filthgrinder, post: 4841750, member: 64984"] Well, I think one thing about WotC 4E "bloat" is that it's organized bloat. In 3E, you could have a player come and sit down at your table and all of a sudden their cleric casts something ridiculous that happens to be in some random Underdark source book. In 4E, you know his powers are going to be from a player's book, or Divine Power. He's not going to be pulling out a level 5 daily from the Dragonomicon II or something. That being said, you also have an expectation of power as well. If he pulls out an at-will from a book (or the minis), you have an idea of how power it'll be. It'll probably do 1[W] + a buff or move effect. It's not going to be something completely ridiculous. Also, with the compendium and character builder, you can at least skim through everything ahead of time. [/QUOTE]
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